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For sure there’s no spot for typical Quebec riders in the states and it’s not an easy transition to make if u need to. I’m fortunate that I have a home and off grid camp in Vermont and I’m perfectly happy acting like the people we see in la tuque and monts valin who load up there sleds with all the supplies they need for the weekend. its very similar to what groomer posts about his camp. You load up all the food, beverage and supplies u need. Once u ride into camp it’s probably 10 degrees inside, so u light the wood stove and start to unpack and settle in. Before u know it, it’s 80 inside and dinner is ready, as are the drinks. After an early breakfast, u get in a good ride before the crowd comes out. Later in the day, you ride to all the other local camps and socialize. It’s something I’ve always enjoyed and look forward to doing, even more so this year...

Just happens I was up again in the big Maine wilderness backwoods exploring. I also went back to the pond on the border and this time launched the kayak. The pond is only about 3/10's a mile long. BUT, on the north end I found a very small stream that heads north, I went about a tenth of a mile up the stream before turning around, worried I would set off border sensors, as I should have been right at the borders of Quebec and Maine. The stream is shallow and hardly any current. This stream will be our road north, We are golden sneaking into Canada this winter!!! I was a little worried as I walked through the trail carrying my kayak down to the pond and heard a plane buzz me. Got out on the pond and a large white helicopter made a few passes looking down at me from the Quebec side of the border. Tried to get a pic of the copter but the sun washed out my view screen and I was zoomed out to the camera's max. Strange having a copter here as it, I believe, is also very remote on the Quebec side. Border Patrol has a large presence nearby but I have never once seen them up in this far back country. I saw no cameras or sensors although most likely they are well hidden. Brought my fly rod, got a brook trout on every cast, but they were small. mike Oops, posting the pics and realized I did get a shot of the copter. (Can anyone from Quebec identify the copter from its colors? -police, military, Quebec version of CIA-)

Rut Row, Ice, I think you nailed it. There now is probably a wanted poster of me and my kayak at the official border crossing. I must have tripped a sensor. From the time I arrived to launch and carrying the kayak to the pond, loading it with gear, and rowing out to the middle when I started to see the copter make passes was probably half an hour. Maybe flew in from Lac Megantic. Any lawyers on QuebecRider? Joe, If I switched to bass I would have to give up good wine for cheap beer. lol

Idea: maybe don't go running through the streets with a hand gun in a riot looking for trouble!

I say RCMP/GRC chopper gonna have to ride through fast (not sure you will outrun the radio)

Native brookies are great eating. Next year we'll tie a popper on your fly rod and I'll take you bass fishing.

I gotta stay out of rabbit-holes and just stick with QR as my only social-media!... https://twitter.com/ThePeoplesCube/status/1298947655498858496 : Kyle Rittenhouse shot a sex offender, a domestic abuser, and an armed communist. The kid is only 17 and he’s completed half my bucket list.

Too bad he is not missing half his skull.

I here you Iceman that is why its sad. I have been going since 1994 and have developed friendships that go beyond snowmobiling. Had to cancel my summer trip too, so I get it, but like you say have to ride. Hoping we can get at least February and March which are the best times anyway.

If it happens in January it will be with a negative test result in hand IMO Beers with Mike at long lake inn st Agath Maine

Well we will have to adapt as we always do. UP, Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire and New York will benefit as riders re-engage with those areas. If it is a good winter this will have long lasting effects on US tourism in Canada. Sad.

Not sure how reliable these tests are, false positives, false negatives everywhere This is better than a quarantine, however, it does complicate things. But works many countries in the Caribbean are doing this. For incoming tourists, Barbados, St Lucia, etc.. But what about going back to say NY after a Quebec trip? Is there a quarantine on return? It’s all crazy. If October brings aliens invading the earth, nothing would shock me at this point. Look around at the craziness.

Adapt is right. With all due respect while you are 100% right about sledders re-engaging in areas besides Quebec because of the border closed. Once you have ridden Quebec it’s extremely hard to go to anywhere else, now I know that Maine for sure has some nice trail(though I have never been there) and I never been to the UP so that I can only go by what I have heard. But as far as NY and Vermont, New Hampshire. You cannot compare any of these networks to Quebec. I would be up on a bridge somewhere ready to jump if I was in the states and could not get to Quebec to ride due to border closed and very much understand how the real Quebecriders are feeling.....Sledders need to sled it’s a special time of the year. That said those who ride Quebec and are riders. Will be back.

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