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I am just not into the Mont Valin. lots of other places with far less people

25 November -2c light snow 2” so far real wet stuff

Happy Thanksgiving to all our friends in USA!

Totally agree, especially with fuel prices these days.

Swisha north gets pretty remote on 386. 160 km seeing nothing but lakes and the odd hunting outfitter that's closed for the winter. It's 200 km from Swisha to Temiscaming. Haven't made the trip yet, but heading east from Val D'or towards Clova also looks to be quite remote.

Northern New Brunswick would be a likely option for January. Start from Edmunston, head north to Moose Valley then east to Christmas Mountains and Bathurst.

We travelled to Les Monts Valins last season in mid-December (even though the Club President warned us not to - he said every snowmobiler and his dog will be up there due to their early snow cover) and stayed at the Auberge 31km. We had been there back in late 2011 and really enjoyed the place. Although most of the cabins around the Auberge had since been sub-divided into two, last year's visit saw our gang of six staying in one of those that had remained intact. The accommodations were fine, and the relais La Chapelle is just up the road (check out the latter's facebook page!). The only issue was, as per the club president's warning, the traffic. With the ridiculously heavy traffic, and relatively mild temperatures, the groomers simply couldn't keep up. Perhaps by January colder temps will aid in allowing the trails to "set up" overnight, and maybe the rush might have diminished a bit as other areas opern up, but it's something to consider before planning a trip. I know that later in the season, the sledding is excellent and, with the lookouts open (there weren't in mid-December), the scenery is fantastic.

To be in Mont Valin there is Auberge km31 https://www.aubergedu31.com/ Passion Quebec 418-673-1001 Auberge Carcajou (further but close) http://aubergecarcajou.com/ Or stay further Sacre Couer https://www.hmcoronet.com/?lang=en

Here's Roqemont - Windigo - Dilligence - Delta - Fairmont - Roqemont, with plenty of wiggle room to play over LSJ enroute to Dilligence & Delta, make those decisions at breakfast, when you see what's been groomed the night before, but plan to get to the Fairmont early to enjoy the pool & casino (IMHO). Click on "Itinerary" to see mileage... http://fcmq.fcmqapi.ca/i?s=IwGmCYDYHYGZuAFlAbQLSWABgQDhLOFrliAKy6bCRiQCc2AuiKSsMNLnXbHSJblg1sdcGVBpEZOIhBpO4dnOiLwuZuna5cwMomhzdWROAMiofbGXqls4fWUOR6kMhtYQw0OvkQbYIABEAIIAqgBCACIAkgAygSB_ICgBgQASAPKx0QByOQlJKOAgNIWyUImMjEA&r=2

That reminds me I need to subscribe to the SPOT Tracker. GutZ