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great news- thank you

Trail map appears to be green now in that section which was recently closed??? Was all red in that small section on trail #3 from st anne to baie st paul. Any one confirm its open now? Any info greatly appreciated

thank you everyone for the info!!

Playhard- what route from old Sheraton Four Points to Casino would be 250 miles?? 3 to 369 thru L'Etape up 23 to 383 to 83 to clairmont express to casino?

Hope its opened up by 2nd week feb- cant figure how else to get to casino from old four points??

HEARD ITS LAND OWNER ISSUE

Anyone have any updates or knowledge of trail closure on Trail #3 from St anne to Baie St Paul area. So you cant ride from the old Four Points to the Casino up trail #3???? Update greatly appreciated...

So nice to hear this great customer service at this particular dealership in Matane. Great they were able to get your machines in for first service. Good timing- right before your long ride. Have a great safe enjoyable ride my friends.

FOUR POINTS SHERATON- THINK IS SIGNATURE HOTEL NOW IN CHARLESBOURG. Its right on the trail (3) Take left out of hotel on the trail- cross a street or 2 and gas is on right side. Then back on trail I suggest take 369 to L'Tape-(gas) then trail #23 then continue towards Mt Apica (clubhouse) Continue on 23 towards Sag/LSG. Its a great ride!!! Just my suggestion.

Have not been this year but in all years past, they have 1 pump. Newer clubhouse (2-3 years).We always try to support the local clubhouses, so its really a matter of timing in most cases. L'Etape has multiple pumps and a very good restaurant attached- mostly chicken dishes, but great experiences every time we have stopped for gas/lunch

I stay at the Delta every year and its great. Bill has first hand knowledge of the conditions daily and knows every trail, even the ones that nobody knows. He is happy to help you with planning trips out of the hotel wherever your destination may be or day loops, including mileage, gas stops, restaurants, lodging etc.. If Bill offers his services, like he always does: take him up on them!!!! I think that area offers some of if not the best trails and scenery, the grooming is always great and their is always low traffic. Have fun and go to the Saguenay and the Delta.

Hoping all the free weekenders dont destroy the trails for next week. Especially with no mention of snow in the forecast over the next 5 days. Ride safe and respect the trails the groomers work so hard for us to enjoy. They do incredible work with the little amount of snowfall as compared to what they are used to.

Anyone give us some accurate reports from todays weather up at the Delta and surrounding areas? how much snow? how much snow before if any rain/freezing rain? All snow up in the mountains? Valin? Weather forecasts in the US dont always have accurate reports to whats actually taking place. Apps say Quebec City area 26 degrees and freezing rain/rain showers?? Must be 90% humidity in air for that to happen. Any reports in the Sag/LSJ/Mt. Valin areas would be great. Thank you!!!

Shouldn't be a problem at all, have done it many times. I would suggest getting a copy of proof of insurance on the trailer.

Pretty much sums up this winter in Quebec area for us.

I agree. but no matter how old or how young, digging out that sled is hard work!!!!!!Just goes with the territory. Looking forward to being up at the Delta Feb 11-14. Looks like some more snow in extended forecast. fingers crossed. Btw, Jack & Sandy- Ilove your reports!!!

try the inside of your coat pocket, if no inside jacket pocket, i usually wrap mine in a towel- like a hand towel. never froze in glove box on machine when wrapped in towel.

All those trails are great from my experience. Its gonna depend on snow cover especially this year (oddly) Only concern would be sometimes trail #3 can be a bit rough towards the ferry(Tadoussac) if you were heading north on #3 from lets say the Casino, not the entire way, but maybe 20 or so miles before the ferry- its very twisty and if not a lot of good snow cover its just more work, but it can be fun as well. From the ferry back up 93 is an awesome ride towards the KM31 lots of open highway type riding. Smooth, flat, and fast. That entire area should receive snow in small amounts 1-3" periodically, enough to improve the current conditions to very good by the time you get there. Hope you have a great and safe ride

Sorry if I sound ignorant, I have been riding in Quebec for 10 plus years, rode with Bill last year with team Bite Harder. Can someone please inform me of what this ride to Radisson is? Whats the deal? Is it an adventure because of no civilization around? Is it just a long ride? No lodging? i SAW SOMETHING ABOUT A GAS TRUCK MEETING THEM?? Riding a plowed road for 200 plus miles? Just would love an explanation of this trip. Again, not trying to take away from the accomplishment everyone is congratulating them for being only the 2nd American group to do so. Thank you to anyone who replies... Thanks

This is it!! about as much action you will see here.

I don't know if anyone on this forum may have remembered or heard of the couple of guys that were stranded their for about 7 hours because they ran out of gas at the pump. Well, I was one of those guys. One of the most bizare and rememberable days I have ever had sledding. We pulled in at about 10am to get gas, there was 3-4 other sleds there, when i pulled up, things looked kind of odd, sleds at the pump and no one was doing anything. Long story, short, the gas truck was on its way from Montreal and broke down. Then another truck got lost, meanwhile we sat outside on our sleds on a rather sunny day about 20-25 degrees. Not bad right?, well at about 3pm it starts to get darker and colder after being outside sitting on your sled or lying back on your seat for 5 plus hours watching the town drunks struggle down the roads, yelling, talking to themselves, everyone in town coming to the pumps to see what was going on and looking at us like what are you doing here? They were nice people, they just are different, and assume not many have ever left that town. Kids play hockey in the street with a crushed soda can as a puck. Everyone that came to the store bought either cigarettes or beer or both. It was certainly an interesting day to say the least. The gas truck arrived about 7pm, and when I saw the truck coming down the hill into town, I must admit it was one of the happiest moments of my life. Only problem was, we had about a 120 miles to get to our destination. Not sure about any lodging there, but it would probably not be on my list to stay. What a day, we got to around Parent, and they had heard about the gas issue we had, news travels fast in those areas I guess.

Ah, the Benedict Arnold was the best in St. George. We stayed their for 5-6 years right up to when it closed. Best Prime rib around, hands down. After it closed we just started out of the Bernieres instead.

Both sleds were 2009's. Yes, the approach to the ferry was just a slight downhill perfectly groomed trail with no ice at all. You can see the approach in one of the pictures I posted ystdy. Not sure of the status of no hairs sled and the other one has not made it to the shop yet.

Had a great trip week of Feb 10- 15. Met up will Saguenay Bill and Team Gutz for a great ride and some history scenes to go with it. Special thanks to Bill and the brothers for a truly great day on the trails. Bill has many people that wants his experienced trail knowledge and the fact he decided to take us along for a ride speaks volumes to his kindness. I came in a day early to beat the weather system in the south. There were 5 of us that rode starting on Feb. 12. This was our trip that featured some of the best trail conditions I've seen in 10 years. Day 1: 2 of us rode from the Four Points Sheraton. Took trail #3 to clubhouse at st. anne for quick bite at 9am. Picked up trail #369 to L'etape for some gas, then took #23 to St. Raymond to trail #73 and then back on to trail #3. At the 220 mile of our ride one of the sleds piston let go. A fun towing job for approximately 40 miles back to the hotel. Total 260 miles. Day 2 Rented a 2014 etech 600 for the next due to 1 of the sleds breaking down ystdy. 5 of us from Team Bite Harder left the Four Points after sharpening up the carbides along with some guys from sno goer magazine Canada- they were very impressed with the new edge on their carbides. Headed up trail #3 all the way up to the Casino, 3 guys stayed their and 2 of us continued on trail #3 to the ferry in Toudassac. Saw a few Beluga whales on the short trip across. Great experience!! After ferry ride, continued on trail #3 and got some fuel before picking up trail; #93 and rode that highway to the Auberge KM 31. Great groomed trails all the way with plenty of snow. Total 280 ish miles. Day 3 Left the Auberge km 31 and rode to Mt Valin. Tons of snow, playing in the powder. Explored the area. Rode trail #93 until it ended because section was closed due to a land owner I was told. Took a trail to the dam to cross the river and rode to the Delta and met up with the other 3 riders. Total 180 miles. Day 4 Left the Delta with Sag. Bill and Team Gutz brothers. Bill brought us to a great look out, although the snow falling did not permit a very good look out, but it was fun riding up the steep hill in a lot of snow. From there, we rode to lunch at Relais Onachiway. Some great story telling and plenty of lies...lol. After lunch went to a cool cave and back to the Delta. One of the sleds from Team Gutz got sick and limped back to the hotel. Total miles 150 ish. Day 5 Said our goodbyes to Sag. Bill and the boys with some filming/interview of Bill and the Bite Harder sharpening tool in action. Took #383 to #469 (I think) to another trail t0 #23 to Mt Apica for a quick fuel up for the apex(gas guzzler) then to L'etape for a quick snack and fuel. From there we rode through the mountains and along the river. A lot of snow fell from previous day in L'etape area. Trail had a good foot of white gold on side of trails- very fun to play in. Got back to the Four Points about 4:30pm. Total miles about 200. After we loaded up sleds, went to spend night at Benieres, had dinner in the city and checked out last night of the Carnival. Crazy stuff, tons of people partying in the streets. Trails were very very good entire trip. The groomers do an amazing job. Special thanks to Sag. Bill and the Gutz brothers for there hospitality and kindness, as well as all the other snowmobiliers assistance along our travels. Everyone is very helpful on the trails. Go ride the amazing trails Quebec has to offer now!!!!

Cant imagine coming around a corner and seeing that. Seeing a groomer around a corner is one thing, but that rig is a whole different beast. Be careful on the trails guys!!!!!