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  1. I cant imagine coming around a corner and seeing that. It's one thing to come around a corner and seeing the groomer. This is a whole different animal. Be careful out there on the trails!!!!
  2. Bill, How the trails holding up your way? Any new snow lately?
  3. Probably about 110 miles from Sheraton Four Points to the gas you speak of just before Clermont??
  4. Claremont? is that gonna be just before the split of 83 and 3? Looks like it from what I can see.
  5. will we make it all the way to the gas your talking about on 1 tank of gas from Four points Sheraton. 2 ski-doo 800's ??
  6. Just as I thought may happen. 50/50- each idea lol.......
  7. Starting at Four Points Sheraton just above QCity in Charlesbourg and going to the KM 31. We can go 2 ways from my understanding and approx. same mileage give or take 20-30 miles. First idea: #3 to #369 to #23 to #368 to #383 to Jonquiere area pick up #367 to #93 East to the Auberge KM 31. via-explora says 229. miles. Anyone know conditions on these trails? Trip is Feb 12. Second Idea: Starting at Four Points get on # 3 all the way up past Casino to Ferry- cross to Tadoussac continue on #3 to #93 west to the Auberge Km31. Approx. 250 ish miles. My concern from other posts is that # 3 can get intense- last 30 miles to the ferry crossing if trails are not just groomed. Meaning lots of turns and twists. Also, most importantly- GAS along either route???? Thank you for any suggestions/input, and of course riders done either of these routes fairly recently.
  8. Thanks Pipeman, your trail reports help a lot for us to decide which way to head. Leaving the four points- Sheraton heading up #3 past the casino to the ferry, cross to Tadoussac, head on #3 to #93 to the km31. Unless you think its better to go up #23 or #83/383 towards Jonquiere, cross up there and pick up #93 towards the km 31. Anyway from Km 31 going to ride the Valins- or just ride the best trails available, eventually making our way to the Delta on a Thursday. Friday we will maybe ride toward LSJ or wherever other riders say good riding is. On Sat. heading back to the four points. Any other suggestions? We like to ride 250-300 miles a day trails depending of course. Thanks
  9. How was the riding from km 31 on trail #93 and trail #3 to Tadoussac?
  10. Thank you to everyone who responded. Looking forward to the adventure.
  11. Are you saying that it is 180 miles from the casino to km 31?
  12. Thank you for the responses. This helps a lot and I guess no worries
  13. Planning on a trip in a few weeks that starts us at the four points sheraton in Charlesbourg riding trail #3 up to the Casino. From there, we are gonna continue on # 3 up to the ferry that crosses to Tadoussac and continue on to trail #93 to the Auberge KM 31. Does anyone have first hand knowledge about the ferry crossing? Do we need reservations? Does the ferry run certain hours? 24 hrs/day? Anyone with info please let me know. Would hate to get there and be SOL. tHANKS
  14. Thanks for the great riding report. Did you ride Mont Valin Quest or Est? Planning a trip their in a few weeks. staying at the km 31 and the delta. Hope the conditions remain good and not sure if they need more snow. Any riding around LSJ ?
  15. Anyone know how much snow Mt. Valin area received?
  16. Has anyone seen or used this tool? Saguenay Bill reviewed it last season and said it was awesome. biteharder.com
  17. Stupe, Well Im glad someone else can validate my venting, not that I'm glad you endured the horrific trails we did, but at least I know I'm not alone on this one. Like I mentioned, even the groomed trails were a 7/10 at best, because there is no way those trails can recover with their current grooming schedule. Maybe a foot of snow and grooming immediately after, then another 6-10" of snow and another immediate groom might get those trails to a 9/10. I hope thats the case for future riders. UNH Hockey: Carrying 3 gallons of fuel would not have gotten me to the next closest gas station
  18. I cant remember exactly from Manawan, 3 of the other guys waiting for fuel with us, 1 of the guys worked for the FCMQ, even was wearing the jacket, he was pretty upset with the trail conditions, once we left Manawan we followed him because his group was heading to Saint Michel des Saints as well. He was on a newer Apex, other 2 guys on older sleds, so we took the lead because our sleds were better equipped suspension wise to endure the brutal bumps. So Im not sure the trail # we took to SMDS, and i would have noticed a trail marker because believe me I was looking for them, might of missed the trail marker with my head bouncing like a bobble head from the bumps. I do not remember seeing a trail marked closed?? the locals in Manawan were very impressed with the LED lights on our sled, in fact I think the entire village came to see the LED's throughout the 6 hour wait for gas. What a experience. The owner of the gas station/local grocery store did everything she could and made sure the snowmobiles got gas first before any of the local vehicles, which were mostly 4 wheelers. Again, we love riding in Canada, because of the superior trails, just wasn't the right timing of our trip.
  19. Trip Report - 2/21- 2/24 Just wanted to share our latest ride report. We have been riding in Quebec for 10 years, approx 3 trips per season. We have always ridden in the Chaudiere-Appalaches, Charlevoix, Lac-st Jean, Mt. Valin regions/areas. Due to lower than average snow amounts and trail conditions in this area,(according to the reports) we decided to take a trip to Western side of quebec in the Lanaudiere/Laurentians area. All the reports and trail conditions showed excellent/good, so we decided to go for it. Day 1 2/21/2013 Started from Lac Carling Resort in Grenville la Rouge(Pine Hill) area. The resort was very nice. Arrived Wed afternoon to approx 10-12" of fluffy snow from Tues evening into Wed. Left on sleds at 8am from hotel, we had to break trail in 1-2 feet of snow to local trail #317-pretty fun stuff. By the way there is 3-4 feet of snow in this area easily. Took 317 to 43 toward Mt. Laurier. Trails were ok 7/10, we then hit a section of railroad tracks for about 15-20 km that were 9/10 and fast. At this point I'm realizing trail markings are not real great with trail number that your on and distances did not seem accurate. Alot of signs give destinations with arrows but no distances. Arrived in Mt. Laurier with about 200 miles on sleds for the day so decided to go check out Devils Mtn, sign said 43 km. Trail to Devils Mtn was horrible, bumpy and moisture in air froze on shield even with a heated shield. Took different trail down towards Comfort inn and it was alot more than 43 km, again no distances on signs. Comfort Inn was busy, provided locks for sleds and security camera on tv in room to see your sleds. Day 2 2/22/2013 Left Comfort Inn at about 7:30 am wanting to get on fresh groomed trails before the crowd, heading on trail 13 north to 33 east to 345 to St Michel des Saints. To our suprise these major Quebec trails were not groomed in days. Made it to Meekos lodge at 11am, not open for lunch until noon, guy said there was a club house 30km, so we headed on. Trails from Meekos were really nice for 15-20 miles, never saw club house. Neede fuel, so we decided to get fuel in MANAWAN- rode down side of road into a small small village to a gas station/store- we saw 6 sleds there in front of pumps with riders standing around. Was informed no gas, truck coming in 1/2 hour. ok no problem. Realized the village was all native indian, just like an episode of Alaska state troopers- omg never seen anything like it. 1 hour later was informed gas truck was stuck in Saint Michel des Saints. At this point i knew things were gonna get interesting. Closest gas was Repos approx 30 km away but wer arrived on low fuel light blinking on sled. Gas attendent called repos and said they wouldnt let a truck come fill up gas and bring it back??? Long story short another gas truck arrived 5 hours later, yes we sat on our sleds outside for 5 long hours. Then another hour for gas truck to finally get situated and pump gas into tanks- NIGHTMARE!!!!!! Arrived at 1pm left Manawan about 7pm. Well we had plenty of time to figure out that St Michel des Saints was 80 km from Manawan according to the map. Trail from Manawan was the absolute worst trail we have ever rode, whoopdie doo bumps like a motorcross track for a good 40-50 miles- no lie. Well, again trails not groomed for seemed like weeks, poor ass trail markings and 80 km to Saint Michel was like 100 miles....WTF !!!! Arrived at Hotel Cental at 9:45pm ate dinner because we found out our hotel Auberge Villegiature Matawinie was over the mountain about 20 - 25 km, the nightmare on the trail continued after dinner, poorly marked signs, then an arrow pointing to hotel was a trail opening with a foot of fresh snow, had to break trail, what a way to end the day. Worst day of snowmobiling we have ever experienced. Gas problem you cant control, trail conditions should be excellent/good with amount of snow there. All trail reports indicated excellent- 4-5 stars and green. POOR POOR POOR. Really thought about flat bedding our sleds back to original hotel. Body at this point is in bad shape due to the AWFUL BUMPY TRAILS. Day 3 2/23/2013 Left hotel at 7:45am headed for Lac Carling- original starting point- THANK GOD, so we figure well they had to groom Friday night. Got on main trail heading south arrived at La Cabbannon?? for fuel, trail was groomed, but because they let trails get so bad a freshly groomed trail was at best a 7/10 at 8:00 am. Took 33 south, I think, who knows, rode 20 miles and only saw 1 trail marker that said 33, warmer temps, wet falling snow, high traffic area, poor trail conditions to start with led to pretty sloppy trails once again. After lunch, continued on lousy marked trails and poor trail conditions, finally made it to trail #3, but there was 3 directions of trails, none of them clearly marked number 3, had to ask some locals that knew what direction to go---thank god Had to ride to the end of trail #3 then to 317 local back to the hotel. Saw a sign for Lac Carling said 31 km, rode 25 km, then saw sign for Lac Carling that said 25km, you do the math, does not calculate properly, leading to fuel issues once again. Anyway finally made it back, lat 10 miles to hotel were the best trails that we rode. Trip toal miles: 746 Groomed Trails: maybe 100 miles Snowmobiling is always an adventure, never any guarantees. We will never ever ride this area of Quebec again. Its a shame because the snow amount in this area is easily 3-4 feet. What a shame the grooming and trail map distances and trail markings are so poor. I would really like the directors of all areas in this region resposible for updating trail conditions to go ride them and really see what they are like before listing trails as excellent/good when they are barely acceptable. Sorry for the venting, I just want to give an honest accurate ride/trail report so another group does not experience what we did. I understand the Chaudierre Apalaches, Charlevoix, Lac St Jean, Mt Valin got good snow. If you are undecided, trust me go there, I know they do a much better job with a 1/4 of the snow. You will have accurate trail distances and great trail markings, and with any snow at all the trails will certainly be groomed. Good luck wherever you go.
  20. Flying into airport, but have my own sled Got trip planned. Mt laurier area to clova and Parent, then st Michel des saints. 700 plus miles 3 days Thanks for everyone's help
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