Ya I didn't use basecamp I just put the files in the maps section on my Garmin, same place as the old ones were. I will try it with basecamp but I may just have a bad download or something I can see the maps they are just gray. Funny thing is when I delete them and just drag and drop the old ones no problem all works fine, I love playing with this kind of stuff reminds of the old days hacking satellite TV. Thanks for the response guys Ill let you know how it works out but know its back to watching the Cains Quest race dots.