nyskidooerinnewhampshire Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) Dropped down from Pittsburg NH to Beecher Falls, Vt. where we entered East Hereford, QC. From there we rode fresh powder - all formerly groomed for the entire 113miles + - . Our objective was to travel 523 to Sawyerville where we would pick up 525 to La Patrie and then onto Chartieville & Pittsburg NH. While traveling on 523 we came to an intersection where a signpost advised La Patrie was to the right. Subsequently we made the right and followed the directional (arrows) signs as the trail had no number. Well the trail went from steep and wide to a goat path and steeper. Additionally the directional signs became further apart where at times we wondered if we missed a turn off as the snow banks were high. How they formerly groomed the goat path (sled ?) I do not know as it was tight and hilly. It was obvious the trail had been recently cut as remnants of former trees were visible in the middle of the trail...Eventually (*25 miles + -) we dumped out onto trail 525 and turned right - only a few miles outside of La Patrie . The new trail / unnumbered caused us to circumvent Sawyerville in its entirety and roughly 10 less miles than our planned trip. If you choose to take the new trail I suggest you ride with another as we only met one soul (FCMQ Trail Patrol) who confirmed for us we were going in the right direction and that the trail was recently cut and not yet on the FCMQ map. Had we not met the trail patrol man we would have turned around as we were unsure if we were going in the right direction and off the GPS & paper map. (* Suggested mileage - guessed - could be more - could be less.) Edited February 17, 2017 by nyskidooerinnewhampshire vt_bluyamaha54, dooright and Grampsledder 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streamer Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 We did the same thing last Thursday. Our GPS showed us going along the boarder cut for some of the trail. We even saw a sign showing a trail to the Perry Pond trail on the NH side of the cut. We too had first tracks all the way to 523. We had lunch at the store-resturant in Chartierville. Crossed at Pittsburg and beat it back to Colebrook. It was a great ride. nyskidooerinnewhampshire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 How are you Paddy & Gin, still coming up to the Delta? I am here with a bunch of Quebec riders having a great time, Met Jack & Sandy, SnomoGary and his wife Pat from England, Chris from PA, Daniel & his wife ( they speak perfect French) Mr.Gutz is here and of course Bill & JG. Hope to see you. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyskidooerinnewhampshire Posted February 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Hello, Joe. Arriiving Sunday afternoon. Looking forward to seeing you and the others : ) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vt_bluyamaha54 Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 On 2/16/2017 at 11:09 PM, nyskidooerinnewhampshire said: Dropped down from Pittsburg NH to Beecher Falls, Vt. where we entered East Hereford, QC. From there we rode fresh powder - all formerly groomed for the entire 113miles + - . Our objective was to travel 523 to Sawyerville where we would pick up 525 to La Patrie and then onto Chartieville & Pittsburg NH. While traveling on 523 we came to an intersection where a signpost advised La Patrie was to the right. Subsequently we made the right and followed the directional (arrows) signs as the trail had no number. Well the trail went from steep and wide to a goat path and steeper. Additionally the directional signs became further apart where at times we wondered if we missed a turn off as the snow banks were high. How they formerly groomed the goat path (sled ?) I do not know as it was tight and hilly. It was obvious the trail had been recently cut as remnants of former trees were visible in the middle of the trail...Eventually (*25 miles + -) we dumped out onto trail 525 and turned right - only a few miles outside of La Patrie . The new trail / unnumbered caused us to circumvent Sawyerville in its entirety and roughly 10 less miles than our planned trip. If you choose to take the new trail I suggest you ride with another as we only met one soul (FCMQ Trail Patrol) who confirmed for us we were going in the right direction and that the trail was recently cut and not yet on the FCMQ map. Had we not met the trail patrol man we would have turned around as we were unsure if we were going in the right direction and off the GPS & paper map. (* Suggested mileage - guessed - could be more - could be less.) Unfortunately Paddy O, this is what has happened in many parts of the Eastern Townships due to the lean snow years the last 10yrs. Permissions for former paths have been lost, signage is poor/non-existent, brushing is haphazard. Glad you were able to find your way. Sawyerville used to be an active area but I don't even know if the Sawyerville Hotel is still operating? It's been a few years - nyskidooerinnewhampshire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 20 hours ago, nyskidooerinnewhampshire said: Hello, Joe. Arriiving Sunday afternoon. Looking forward to seeing you and the others : ) . Perfect nyskidooerinnewhampshire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyskidooerinnewhampshire Posted February 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) Unfortunately Paddy O, this is what has happened in many parts of the Eastern Townships due to the lean snow years the last 10yrs. Permissions for former paths have been lost, signage is poor/non-existent, brushing is haphazard. Glad you were able to find your way. Sawyerville used to be an active area but I don't even know if the Sawyerville Hotel is still operating? It's been a few years - Thank you Vt_bluyamaha54. When I researched "Hotel Sawyerville" it appears it has transferred ownership multiple times in recent years with the last time in 2016 and is currently named RAMANA HOTEL COMPLEX. It appears to be a boutique / meditation escape / hotel . Aside from one Facebook posting in November 2016 I did not see any association / catering to snowmobiling. The following is a link to the current website. http://www.hotelramana.ca/ and or FB page @ https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=complexe hôtelier ramana I wish the current investors luck with their venture ,,,,,,,,, Edited February 19, 2017 by nyskidooerinnewhampshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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