chuck427 Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 Hi, We have rode the other side of the St. Lawrence River, Gaspe and New Brunswick for many years. 250-350 mile days are usual for us. Our group has a trip planned for the end of February to this region. We are trying to make the most of our time spent. Plans are to drive to Baie St Paul. Leave from there 1st day head to Saguenay & stay the night. 2nd day, we don’t really know what’s best to do. Mont Valin region? Or Lac St Jean? Is is possible to loop around to 23 stay at L’tape the third day? Then early leave 4th day run to 23 to 369 to 3 back to the truck and drive home from Baie St. Paul. Any help will be greatly appreciated. We are open to a suggestions or changes. Thank you, Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGutz Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 Hmm, how about St Paul through Valin to Sag\Delta or more toward LSJ (South of Alma) out and down 355 to la tuque , then to Quebec City, then up to St Paul? GutZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstraw Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 From BSP to the Delta via Tadousaic up the 93 to the Delta about 260. From there up around LSJ via the 373, great trail to Chambord about 240 great place with outdoor pool and spas. from there about 200 back to BSP or take the 355 and stay in St Raymond then back to BSP on the 4th day. All those options can be shortened or lengthend depending on weather and trail conds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck427 Posted December 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) Thank you very much for the information. Is a route towards Valin worth the detour? Our boondockin’ talents are very slim. Lol Edited December 22, 2019 by chuck427 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dooright Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just a FYI. There's no place to stay in L' Etape . Food and fuel stop . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGutz Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Mt Valin (NOT on the Week Ends) is cool to see, stay on the main trails and you'll be fine. Don't forget to the use the Interactive Map to plan, always underestimate the mileage you'll cover on your first trip in an area. Later GutZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck427 Posted December 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Thank you for that info. The ride to & around there looks good. People mention it quite a bit. What do you think? We are trying to be 150ish miles max from BSP on the fourth riding day. 83-23-369-3 to St Anne Beaupre then ride to BSP (4th day). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
800steve Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) Jonquiere to BSP about 150 miles, 83 to 3 trail. Real nice ride. Edited December 22, 2019 by 800steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGutz Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Day 1 Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Either way \ direction BSP to Northish of St Raymond down 3 , 23, 73 Northish of St Ray to LSJ Area 73 to 355 to 93 (many places to stay. Around the lake to a Mt Valin Region, lots of places to stay and depending on how far you want to go (longest day) Mt to BSP, 83 to 3 to BSP, smaller one in between. I'm sure once you have a firmed up mileage everyone has a suggestion for were to stay and what to see. LAter GutZ PLAYHARD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck427 Posted December 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Thank you very much. After your last post, I mapped out a similar route. The difference was spending two days in Chambord. Then the fourth day would be from Chambord to St Anne De Beaupre. We were considering leaving from St Anne Beaupre rather than drive to BSP. The first day would the longest. I stayed in that area once in 2002. Day tripped for 2 days. I remember the ride from Beaupre to the casino was really nice. So I figured adding that stretch to the first day wouldn’t be a bad thing. That was my first time past Quebec City. I don’t remember the hotel name. But it was right across the street from a small bar. Parked right in front of the rooms on the main road. Our concern with regards to the start point, is security for the truck/trailers while on the trip. We have never had any issues leaving the gear in Edmunston at any hotel. We have little knowledge of this area. I appreciate the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGutz Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 IF it was me... I may want to start out of the old FourPoints which is now a DoubleTree. it is right on 3 and gives you 3 ways to come or go. Up 23 toward letape\LSJ, 23\73 toward La Tuque or Lac Edward, or 3 toward BSP\LaMalbae\Tadosac. (Yes my spelling sucks) The place has secured parking and a lot of people launch from there. 2 Rental places onsite. PLAYHARD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstraw Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 99% of our trips in the last 14 years start in Shawinigan, or St Raymond. Never an issue leaving trucks for the week. Both spots excellant for 3-4 day loops North Usually avoid the Quebec city area if possible near the weekend for obvious reasons Edited December 23, 2019 by Jackstraw PLAYHARD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLAYHARD Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 14 hours ago, MrGutz said: Around the lake to a Mt Valin Region, lots of places to stay and depending on how far you want to go (longest day) Great loop for sure. Was wondering if your stop by Mt Valin was just throwing a dart (near Passion) or pinning a real place: So I zoomed in and saw this: https://manoircarlhanjess.com/rooms/manoir/ Looks like they rent the whole joint: Description, Located in Saint-Honoré, the manor is distinguished by its proximity to nature and its unifying effect. It offers 10 bedrooms and 4 bathrooms which are suitable for all those seeking comfort. Judiciously positioned, the manor offers everything you need for a relaxing stay. Seen on the monts-valin, To make you want to hit the slopes. 52 inch TV & DVD, To allow you to watch your favorite movies. 10 min from the ski slopes, A nearby place to relax after a day outdoors. SPA and Pool, For hot days, the pool and for the colder the spa. A dream combination. 10 Beds, Impeccable comfort. Big kitchen, A large workspace to cook up a good meal. Accessible at all times. Can accommodate 30 people, For a family reception or reunion with friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGutz Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 My thoughts, as random as they are, were that it was close to Valin, leaving the choice of continuing into Valin or staying a little outside, and I know there is a place there called Carcajou, I've wanted to stop into the place and see it. Once they have firmed up a route, everyone can suggest their favorite places along the way. Later GutZ PLAYHARD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revct1 Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 We stayed at Caracjou once to try it. Very nice. A little more money than the Delta or Sag but very homey, nice folks there and really good food. Chuck, Don't over think this first trip. Wherever you ride around LSJ is usually really good. Like GutZ said, stay off the mountain on weekends. Other than that, you won't come close to seeing everything in a couple of days. Pick a few nice places to stay at and then ride. There are so many trails in that area, you can lengthen or shorten a day with ease. This will just give you a taste of what is available. Jack & Sandi PLAYHARD, zeusand and MrGutz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saleen15 Posted December 28, 2019 Report Share Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) Hi All, Any hotel recommendations in Chambord area? Edited December 31, 2019 by Saleen15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck427 Posted December 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) I really appreciate all of the information. Quebec has always been a great community of people. Many years ago our first trips to Bas St Laurent & the Gaspe were guided by the generosity of others and their knowledge. We pretty much narrowed down our trip and are looking for some hotel recommendations. We are not too concerned about pricing and are willing to pay for a nicer place with great food etc… Night 1: Quebec I think we decided on the Double Tree by Hilton from a previous post. https://doubletree3.hilton.com/en/hotels/quebec/doubletree-by-hilton-quebec-resort-YQBQCDT/index.html Night 2: Delta/Saguenay I saw the OTL Gouverneur OTL which looked pretty nice? https://www.otlhotelsaguenay.ca/en/ Open to other suggestions… Night 3 & 4: Chambord I saw the Chalets et spa, also looked pretty nice. We are planning on 2 nights so would want to be in a great location. https://www.chaletsetspa.com/en/home Open to other suggestions Thanks for your help! Edited December 30, 2019 by chuck427 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grampsledder Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 We stay at the Chateau Roberval in the Chambord area. We always stay at the Delta if we are in Saguenay. Always good to meet fellow QR riders, and to see Bill. Both have restaurants and easy trail access. Doesn’t look like it is on your route but heads up to others. We had a bad experience at Carcajou last year. Our previous stay a few years before was great. We have taken it off our list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLAYHARD Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 If you love outside tubs/pools/steam bring your trunks!... https://www.chaletsetspa.com/en/home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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