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Do yourself a favor and stay at fairmont le manoir richelieu.
The place is amazing, and the snow up there is still excellent. The casino is right next door, with walkway underground to the casino.
Saturday snowmobiled all day, got back, hired a sitter (booked directly through the hotel) and went to the Casino.
My wife and I were at the Casino for about 20 minutes before hitting a progressive. Not a million dollars or anything, but Paid for our trip :)
Cashed out, went to dinner, came back and gambled a bit more before calling it a day.
Can't ask for much more.
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what kind of loops did you do from La Malbie?
Let me start by saying, I made this trip with wife and young kids (6 & 9)
this was a first for us, the kids have never ridden on a trail, and the wife only once, for a short ride.
This was kind of a 'test' to see how it would go.
so, if you want to put on some 'real miles' (or Kilometers) then our routing won't necessarily help you.
But I'll give a recap anyway, in case it's helpful for someone.
Overall, It went about how I suspected, everyone had fun, but wife & kids had limited endurance.
we did about 90 KM on Friday and only about 45km on Saturday (Saturday wife was getting sore and asked if we could go back early).
We arrived Thursday night in the middle of a storm. They got about 10 inches from thursday through friday (while we were on the trails)
The snow as nice, but we were breaking trail quite a bit on Friday, which made it a little tough on my wife with her limited experience.
[she was a trooper though, and I was pretty impressed by how she did]
Anyway, here's the recap
Friday we left the hotel (Fairmont Le Manoir Richelou, which is awesome and i want to live there) on trail 124
then took 378 N, to 64 w to 3 N.
We stopped at the Charlevoix Club for Lunch (Great stop, loved it. Had burgers beer and Poutine. My first time having Poutine and it was tasty)
Then we continued on 3N to 378, which we followed south all the way back to 124.
When we got to 124 it had been groomed, and we had first tracks for those 9km back to the hotel. Awesome.
Saturday we took 124 to 378 to 64. Stopped in Clermont to Gas up, then over to 3 South.
We were going to continue to 377, then take that to 378 and return.
But we weren't on 3 south for long before my wife started getting sore and fatigued.
So we turned around and retraced the same route back to the hotel instead.
I wish i could make another trip up this weekend (or next) but it's such a long trip from CT. It's just not in the cards.
Anyone interested in a little motion sickness, and a taste of the trip, here you go
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What do people think the conditions will be like this weekend after the rain? Was thinking of starting at the Four Points Sheraton and heading up to Tadoussac Saturday and doing a big loop over to Lac St Jean. Will 3 North be pretty torn up from the warm weather? I just dont have a good feel for how the conditions will be or if the clubs will even groom before the weekend. Any insight would be awesome.
I went through this same problem planning a trip i just got back from. (Got Back this past Sunday)
It's a very long drive from Connecticut, so i Wanted to book Four Points vs going further north, but Wasn't sure what to expect.
With rain and warms temps, It was just too 'iffy' trying to leave from Quebec city area, so I cancelled & went to La Malbaie instead.
Conditions up there were fantastic, and even with the rain this week, they have so much snow I suspect riding will hold out for at least another week or two.
This was my first trip to Quebec, so I'm no expert. But there was little-to-no snow on the ground around Quebec city.
So if they are saying the trail from Four Points is still open, it can't be by much.
I'd say you are better off starting off from somewhere further north. Just my two cents.
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Just got back from our trip to Malbaie Quebec and WOW, what a trip.
We arrived Thursday night in the middle of the storm and got home last night.
Rode Friday and Saturday. Friday it snowed all day. Saturday was a beautiful Bluebird Day.
There is definitely no shortage of snow up there. Feet and Feet of snow. And it is snowing more there right now!
Friday we were essentially breaking trail in some areas, as we were riding in the storm and things weren't groomed yet.
And what was groomed for Saturday, was a little soft with all of the new snow.
But I have no complaints, it was still great. Felt so good to be back on snow. I can't wait to make another trip!
They are calling for some rain this week.
But with what they had, plus the snow from this past Thursday/Fri, plus what they are getting now, the trails should be great for a while still.
The Fairmont Le Manoir Richelieu was fantastic. I can't say enough about it. It was perfect for a family trip.
Multiple restaurants, indoor and outdoor pool, kids activities, the casino, and you can hire sitters to watch the kids (so mom & dad can go to the casino)
We utilized it all, and I want to go back. Of course it helped that I hit a progressive jackpot and paid for the trip, with a little to spare :)
Anyway, Like i said, with the amount of snow they have, looks like conditions should remain great in the region for a while.
I wish i could go back up right now with my XRS! The Grand Touring (900 Ace) were great for the family, but I missed my 800 etec.
I'll post some pictures as soon as I figure out how! :)
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Just checked the forecast for La Malbaie and they're calling for a major winter storm up there tomorrow through Friday with 10 to 15 inches of snow !!!! Sacre Blue !!!
Yeah, I can't believe that storm is coming. Crazy!
I'm wondering what it's going to be like on the trails on Friday. It will be interesting. But I'll take it!!
I bought a New Sled this year. First time I've ever bought a new machine, and it's my dream sled. 2016 Ski-Doo Renegade XRS 800 ETec.
It was delivered in October (of course it came early) and I waited...impatiently...for snow.
Then winter came...or more accurately, didn't come. At least to the Majority of New England.
The closest riding for me (and many) all season was Pittsburg NH. I rode there twice, and once on Winni.
The rest of NH never opened their trails. Something I have Never seen in 25 years of riding.
So, the fact that Quebec is getting this storm, the weekend I'll be there, puts a BIG smile on my face.
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Was in La Malbaie on Saturday and for the most part very good, parking lots and roads are bare,but once out of town and higher elevation are great
I figured it would be a little thin near the hotel and around town.
But since you were up there, perhaps you can tell me;
What is the approx riding time and/or trail distance from the hotel (or town area) to the 'higher' elevation trails you mention.
We will be doing two 'day trips' from the hotel, so I was wondering how much riding time we will lose each day getting to and from the 'good stuff'
It really doesn't matter too much, as it's been so long since I've been on my machine, I'd be happy riding on the grass. LOL
But it's nice to know what to expect. Thanks for your feedback !
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Leaving tomorrow for a long weekend at fairmont le manoir richelieu in La Malbaie.
This will be my first snowmobiling trip 'as a family'. Me, my wife, and my two children (7 & 9).
We only have time for two days on the trails (Friday & Saturday) but I can't wait.Any new reports on the trails in that area?
Sounds like conditions from there north have been excellent, yes?
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Welcome to QuebecRider Numecheng.
The snow depth still looks good for Charlevoix. Trail 83 is usually a very good trail. There aren't any facilities on 83 once you leave trail 3 heading north. You won't see much signage but it is really the only trail. No intersections to get lost at. Top off the gas tanks in the morning. Ask the rental place how far you can go on a tank of fuel so you don't get caught short. If they tell you in kilometers, remember to convert to miles. I don't remember if there is gas at Ravage. Maybe someone else can say.
Around La Malbie, trail 3 and the local trails you should find plenty of places to stop for gas, food, pee break, etc. There will be good signage there.
One caveat - you may not want to ride in New Hampshire after this trip.
Enjoy the ride and be safe.
Jack & Sandi
Thanks for the info & pointers!
"One caveat - you may not want to ride in New Hampshire after this trip." <-- I've been worrying about this LOL.
This happened to me with skiing. Skied NH/VT my whole life, then moved to Colorado for a while.
Then, when I came back east, I couldn't help but compare. And the west wins, hands down.
A-Basin, Beaver Creek, Keystone, Copper, Breckenridge, Vail, Aspen.. how can you compete with that?
I'm sure the same will happen to me after this trip. I'll be comparing trails/conditions, and I know that the land of the quebecois will win.
But I don't plan to move back to Colorado, and I don't plan to Move to Quebec ;)
So, I'll have to make due with the occasional 'epic' adventure.
I'll be sure to post a few pics after the trip!
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I am here in La Malbaie area now. The trails have been fantastic the past 4 days. They will be getting some 'freshies' towards the end of this week so I expect the trails to hold out for awhile yet.
Thanks for the post! Great to hear the trails are in good shape.
Based on temps and weather forecast for this week, they should hold up very well.
I'll be arriving this Thursday, can't wait!!
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Gonna be tough in and out of town in Chicoutimi. No doubt bare pavement leaving LA Saguenenne. Not terrible but certainly more to deal with then at the Fairmont.
I think lots of snow still in Charlevoix and I would go to Fairmont. Especially with family in tow.
Sled rental on site there I believe and they can lay out a route for you.
My 2 cents
Thank you for your '2 cents'. You gave me the gentle 'nudge' i needed to make the decision.
I was really on the fence between the two, but if getting to and from the Fairmont will be better trails, that seals the deal.
Which is great, because I would really prefer to stay at the Fairmont anyway, mainly because I know it will make my wife happy !
Also, onsite rental gives me a lot of flexibility.
I think I'll book 1 day, and see how it goes with the kids, and add the second if I think they can take it.
That really wouldn't be possible if I went to Chicoutimi. The rental place isn't close enough to the hotel.
A BIG 'Thank You' to Everyone for your insight and advice! I would have been lost without it!
I'm really looking forward to my first ride in Quebec!
Can't wait to play in the Snow!!
i'll be sure to post some pictures of the trip!
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Casino is a classic, outdoor pool is awesome for kids of all ages, if the trails hold up there's 200 miles of goofing off (dead ends & figure 8's) on the locals & 377 & 378 & 3. Plenty for 2 days with the young'uns on the back.
If snow gets too thin by the seaway and Bill's Paradise holds up (http://www.quebecrider.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4007) the Delta is a must to visit the Guru, but this place nearby has walk-out rooms connected to the indoor pool, and the whole area has great access to lots of options:
CENTRE DE CONGRÈS ET HÔTEL LA SAGUENÉENNE
250 Des Saguenéens, Saguenay G7H 3A4
800 461-8390
418 545-8326
This property you mentioned, ET HÔTEL LA SAGUENÉENNE, is where I'm currently booked.
I'm just trying to make the tough decision whether to go there, or change to Fairmont Richelieu.
I think i would rather stay at Fairmont Richelieu, but I assume i have a better chance the conditions will be better up in Saguenay area.
Hmmmm...I need to decide, I'm running out of time :)
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Zoom in on Via Explora and off trail 83 there is an orange local that takes you to Ravage, it would not be a loop but well worth the trip. 83 is big wide and fast easy to ride with 2 up. If you get to 383 on 83 you have gone to far but the left onto local trail is well marked to Ravage, after you turn W/N on 83 it's the first trail to the left.
Via Explora can be blown up by turning wheel on mouse and local trail will show up.
thank you for the extra details!
Ravage is at the red waypoint on the map. Try hitting 83 and the trail into Ravage after Thursday night because that is typically when they groom that trail. I've noticed that some hotels on viaexplora aren't placed on the map correctly sometimes.
Getting excited! Can't wait!
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"Auberge du Ravage" is a beautiful log resort South of the 83; 45ish miles from the "Casino" if you get to 383 you have gone too far. Great lunch spot make a 90 mile day. Oh yea Fairmont Richelieu is all that and more, reminds me of "The Shining" grand old hotel with St Lawrence views.
thank you for the reccomendation. would we be able to do a loop, or will it be one way out and same way back?
i was checking the online trail map. Do you mean if we get to highway 381 we've gone too far?
Or is 383 a trail I'm on seeing on the map?
Auberge du Ravage is in Saint Urbain, just off of Trail #3?
Are there 'local trails' that aren't on the online trail map? (http://fcmq.viaexplora.com/carte-motoneige/index.html)
I requested a 'hard copy' map from one of the local CVB's but I haven't recieved it yet.
Also, you think there is another good 'day trip' from Fairmont Richelieu? We plan to ride 2 days, if the first day goes well :)
I really do appreciate eveyone's input. I would be 'flying blind' without it. Quebec is such a huge place!!!
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Mt St Anne seems like an appealing base for a family but the riding destinations are probably limited.
Chicoutimi is a city. And staying in the city wastes time getting out of the city. The Delta has good access to the trail faster than the Saguenenne and the Comfort Inn where you'll need to cross a few roads before getting to the trail.
Fairmont Richelieu is a definite favorite. A nice ride could be to Auberge du Ravage and back - which you could do from La Malbaie (65 miles each way, mostly Super Highway trail too) or from Chicoutimi (70 miles each way). Its nice to come back the the pools at the Fairmont. The casino. . .comme si comme ca.
From Chicoutimi/Jonqiuere there are lots of options and getting to Valinouet (the ski hill on Mt Valin) is about 45-50 miles. La Baie and the giant Yield sculpture would be a nice ride. The caves. L'anse St Jean.
thank you for this feedback, very helpful.
What is "Auberge du Ravage"
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Yeah I second the Fairmont Richelieu if you're there with the family. Nice pool, ice skating (if it stays cold enough), could sleigh ride on the golf course I suppose. Day trip to Ravage is a must. Took the family there for lunch last year. Make sure you get the kids the hot chocolate, its excellent. The second your wife walks in there she will probably strip down naked and drag you into the nearest room.
j/k. Its really nice but its a bit pricey. LOL, Thank you for the feedback. I hope you are right about my wife's reaction :)
If it were a trip with 'the guys' I'd save money and just find a place by the trail with a roof and a bed.
But I don't mind spending the money on a nice hotel to make the trip more appealing to the wife.
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Ok, you have all convinced me.... I've given up on Quebec City as an option. Snow probably won't hold out anyway.
To Recap, I'm riding Driving up Thurs March 24, and riding Fri/Sat (25/26).
So, it's down to either Saguenay area (Stay in Chitoutimi) or La Mal Baie (stay Le Manoir du Richelieu)
Both are similar distance drives for me, so now I need to decide between the two.
I have machine rentals lined up in both locations.
[i'll be rending 2 two-up machines, as mine is a one-up 2016 renegade xrs....and yes, it hurts very badly leaving mine at home]
I'm a very experienced rider, but I'll be riding with my wife and two young children.
My wife has ridden/driven, but only for short distances. And my children are 7 & 9. So obviously each of us will take one.
We won't be saddle bagging. We'll be making day trips. I plan to do two full days riding. [ I think that's as much as they will take ]
Any thoughts on which area is more 'family friendly'?
Seems like the best conditions will be up in saguenay, particularly mont Valin area,
But it looks pretty remote up there. Are there places on the trail to stop?
Are both areas about the same? Very long distances between 'civilization'?
I love 'remote' locations, but I need to weigh that against making this a successful family trip.
In short, i want to give myself the best possible shot at my wife and kids having fun, so i can do it again.
Any additional insight on this would be helpful.
thanks!
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Check the grooming reports before going out... Go to: http://fcmq.viaexplora.com/carte-motoneige/index.html Click "Services" in the upper right corner Click Delai de serfacage (and whatever other "Attraits" you want to see) Click "Fermer" to close the drop down box If you switch the view from Carte (map) to Satellite, youll see the Whites (those havent been done 3+ days) THEN HEAD FOR THE GREENS & YELLOWS!!
Thank you!
Or just stay here and take your chances. http://www.chateaumontsainteanne.com/en/ It's in Beaupre about 30 minutes Northeast of Quebec City. Pool, outside saunas, nice skiing if you want.
I've stayed here many times with the wife and kids. Trail access from the hotel. Within 5-7 miles of the hotel your into the good stuff trail-wise. We've ridden dirt out of there before until you hit TQ3. It just goes up in elevation from there.
Thank you for the suggestion!
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From Quebec City? IMO worse than 50/50
Ok, thanks.
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Or just stay here and take your chances. http://www.chateaumontsainteanne.com/en/ It's in Beaupre about 30 minutes Northeast of Quebec City. Pool, outside saunas, nice skiing if you want.
I've stayed here many times with the wife and kids. Trail access from the hotel. Within 5-7 miles of the hotel your into the good stuff trail-wise. We've ridden dirt out of there before until you hit TQ3. It just goes up in elevation from there.
This could be perfect!
I saw this, but didn't know there was trail access from the hotel. Very good to know!
thank you for the recommendation - i'll definitely check this out!
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Don't look at the drive as 7.5 vs 9.5 look at it as for ONLY 2 more hours of driving you would almost be guaranteed to be able to ride.
Also since you state your desperate to ride that two hour difference will be well worth it.
That is a good point.
What chance to you give it that it will be ride-able from Quebec? 50/50? worse?
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Baie Saint Paul 1:15 North of Quebec City, I'm sure someone has been there recently and will chime in. Nice hotel on main drag and trail leaves from parking lot. Hotel Baie St Paul
Thank you for your feedback.
So you think there is any chance I can ride from Quebec City area? 50/50% chance? or worse?
I've Heard Baie Saint Paul has good trail access.
Seems like a lot of extra driving East when the goal is to get further north. But sounds like it may be my best option if not Quebec City.
Am I correct in saying that there aren't any cities directly north (maybe 1/2 hour) of Quebec City where there are nice 'resort' style hotels, with pool for the kids?
Even in Baie Saint Paul, where there are several hotels to choose from, it appears most properties are pretty basic, yes?
I need to book somewhere that i can leave the wife and kids behind (at the pool etc) if they aren't interested in a second day of riding after the first day.
thanks again for eveyone's feedback
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HELP!! I need input from experienced Quebec Riders!
I'm from New Hampshire, and my riding has always been limited to that state.
But with a "lack of winter" in NH this year, I need to go north to find snow.
I've been planning to ride in Quebec over Easter weekend. But this will be my first time riding in Canada.
From my understanding, in a 'normal winter' riding out of Quebec City at the end of March is typically very do-able. But this year may be an exception.
I currently live in Connecticut, so I really didn't want to drive any further North than Quebec City, as my starting point (if possible).
It sounds like you guys are experienced Quebec riders, and have ridden there recently.
I planned to stay at Four Points Sheraton Resort, they have a trail directly to RT#3.
What do you think my chances are that the trails that far south will still be open Easter weekend?
Some people I've spoken to say I'll need to go further north, to Saguenay/Mont Valin area, and stay in Chitoutimi.
But that will add at least 2 hours driving time to my trip (Makes it a 9 1/2 hour drive vs. 7 1/2 hours to Quebec city.)
I'm only making a short trip, 4 days total, including travel. So the extra driving will hurt. (I know, sounds crazy, but i bought a new machine this year...I'm desperate)
I'm putting it 'to the floor' for input.
Any feedback will be very appreciated.
Thanks!!
Quebec city to casino?
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Everything was great, I'm looking forward to my next trip! probably will be next season