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  1. First Wreck of the Season

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Apparently 2 guys riding side by side between La Chapelle and Km 25 came upon a guy in a pickup truck going to his chalet. Broken leg and a dead Cat. Could have been worse. Seriously though side by side WTF. Another hazard of early season, not enough snow to keep the trucks off the roads we use as trails.

    That;s too bad, glad they aren`t riding the clouda above...

    Stay Safe this Season Everyone!!

    :clapping:

  2. snow

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    :clapping: hey santa, i'm about to make you even more grompier..... we had 6 friends over last night and they came up the lepine road.. they also mentioned that the ride was great... we will more than happy to see you this season, we got a little bit of rain today but the weatherman is announcing snow the rest of the week. Will keep you all posted...

    snow white and big al :drinks:

    Super Cool Tamarac. Keep us posted for sure, On aimerait peut etre faire un tour chez vous avant Noel!! :drinks:

  5. Mont Valin

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Hi everyone

    Were planning a trip to Mont Valin this season just wondering when it usually opens up more less I know its all up to mother nature and all put it would be nice to start planning a head any info would be great thanks.

    sent you a message>>> we are AMP PSDA members, We are planning a trip in November and have many years experience with November runs to Monts-Valins> :)

  7. Groomer!!!!

    in Saguenay-Lac St-Jean

    Posted

    hi blizzman !!

    thanks !! always a pleasure to help!!

    well ,your question is a 100.00$$ one !!!

    have nt seen pics with snow of the mont valins lately on the french forum.i guess will have to wait and be patient for a while.

    checked the long term forecast for the next 14 days for the rimouski area.should have snow around november 19 th.without being negative , i don t believe much in the long term forecast.but anything can happen.

    was thinking about that earlier this week.20 years ago ,right on this weeek end ,winter started for good here.storm started on the friday and ended up on the monday morning .3 ' of snow ,then a few days later ,another foot.

    pics taken on dec 7 th.many hundred trees down.

    third pic ,i was riding from 4 to 6 ' over the road.so many trees down.i was looking at the first pic,back in 77 ,went shoveling the camp with 2 of my brothers.at the lowest point of the roof ,there was 7 ' of snow to shovel !!so ,don t worry about the weight of the sled on the roof !!!ha ! ha !!

    frost here for the 4 th morning in a row and sunny .

    groomer !!!

    Thanks for the info Groomer! frost 4 days in a row is a good start! I guess we will have to wait and see how mother nature treats us in the next couple of weeks. If you here anything please let me know!

    Merci Encore!

  9. be safe out there...

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    The railroad bed is groomed between Mki and Kaz since december 12 but that's about it for now.I heard they will be packing between Lytton and Le Domaine.Val d'Or is now in charge of TQ 63 further west.

    Let's keep our fingers crossed for the upcoming storm later in the week.We need snow!!!! coz if we get rain the season will be delayed

    thanks for the info. and yes... we need more snow!

    :yahoo: That is good for sure, Val d'Or club always does a better job of grooming :good:

    We all do a great job grooming !! last year was just a bad year for Ours Blanc and pingouin due to machinery failure.

  10. be safe out there...

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    This will be more suitable for many users overhere

    Stay off the water, snowmobile group warns

    The GazetteDecember 21, 2009 9:13

    MONTREAL - Despite recent frigid temperatures across Quebec, snowmobilers should avoid lake and river crossings, says the Association des Motoneigistes du Québec.

    The warning follows the death Saturday of a snowmobiler who plunged into a small lake near Godbout, about 350 kilometres north of Quebec City. The man's two companions were rescued and are recuperating in the hospital.

    The surface of a lake or river can appear frozen, but the thickness of the ice might not be enough to bear the weight of a snowmobile and its riders, the Quebec snowmobile organization says. Ice should be at least 15 centimetres thick before snowmobilers venture onto a lake or river.

    Drowning is one of the main causes of death in snowmobile accidents, the snowmobile organization noted in a news release today.

    Snowmobile route conditions and warnings are available on the group's web site.

    I agree, but i couldn't find the article in english.

    Thanks Midrange.

    how are the trails in your area?

    Club Pingouin hasn't started yet.

    PSDA is almost done packing.

    We are sending a groomer up to Danford at the end of this week...

  12. Joncas

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Too bad to see anything like that happen to anyone. Is it true that place is owned by a Hockey player?The real bad part is that trail always sucked before so i guess they will never groom it now. :sad:

    The trail will be groomed and the joncas will operate this year.

    There should be another place in operation next winter.The place is called http://pourvoirielaverendrye.com/

    It is located between Le Domaine and Regional 386.They are advertising on our local map for 2009-10 season.

    I'll have more details down the stretch......

    this outfitter has also purchased a groomer and will do the section leadin to the camps.

  13. ice

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    :nea: well things are starting to shape up. as we all no some trails depend on rivers,ponds,lakes all being safe so just curious if there freezing up yet?

    lakes and swamps over here in southern Québec are starting to freeze up. about 2 inches of ice. rivers are still open.

  19. some peoples don t care ...

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    i am an operator ,i can operate a chainsaw ,brushcutter and the groomer .personnally ,i do a lot of volunteering for my club and i can t do everything too !!! fyi , in the last 11 days , i groomed 10 days.i groom probably 70 % or close of all the trails we have .

    matapedia river here split the territory for the surtac and the br .on my side we are only 2 volunteers .me and a friend.as you must know it s really hard nowadays to find volunteers . ''they '' rather complaint instead of volunteering !!! i don t know how you say that in english ,but my runs are not ''milk runs '''.

    you could be surprise how much money i spend grooming for the club and i m not a millionnaire ,i do it because i like it and the salary is not much !!!

    ''this is a $$2000.00 fine for the club . '' WANT ME TO SEND THEM ONE ??? ''

    don t post things like that to me , i do so much volunteering for my club ,helping friends on forums and perfect strangers .

    be careful next time ,but thanks for the advice tho !!!!

    groomer !!! :drinks:

    Groomer I am a club director/volunteer. I am also a niveau 3 with the F.C.M.Q. I appreciate all the work. My concerns, are not that those of how much we do, it's the legal system that scares me when it come to injury and death. The article states, and I know the club President very well, that the lawer is using improper signage as the cause for the accident. It just worries me that any excuse can be used by these advocates to sue hard working clubs for the stupidity of others.

    Thank you for all your hard work.

    This is the message that i am putting out to you all.

    Blizzman are you serious? Just trying to get everyone worked up?? It worked!!

    "No but they can be sued for improper signage. There are no signs indicating stay right or hill."

    Are you saying there needs to be signs to stay right at the top of a hill??? People need to be responsible for their own actions. Bad thing about those pics is if something did happen, it would have involved an innocent rider who was staying right. By your logic, we should post signs in the bathroom reading "pull down pants before taking a crap"

    Another vent on those pics, why would the riders ride on Groomers freshly groomed trail if they could avoid it?? Stay off it and let it set up if possible.

    Did you read the article or maybe you don"t understand french. I can Translate what I bolded.

    The Lawyer said that the accident is caused by poor signage.

    I don't disagree with you, but my awnser is in my above statement. Concerns for the club that any excuse can be used by advocates to sue them.

    Blizzman You cant be serious!!!!!! Common sense tells us if that were the case all we would see would be signs and i wouldnt enjoy the ride at all because there would be thousands of them within a mile. Wake up and get some common sense or maybe you should just volunteer!!!!!

    Believe me, I do alot of volunteer, 12 months of the year, from aquiring right of ways to trail developpent to pickets and fundraising events. I am and will alwas remain, a dedicated volunteer and Director on my club.

    My above statements are my concerns.

    Yes people are stupid, yes they should have common sense, but the reality is that not all do. And the Only way for us (Clubs and Clubs directors) are to watch out for ourselves.

    Do most of you realize that Club directors make decisions and that we in turn are responsible for the decisions that we make?

    Tell me howyou would feel if you ended up in court over a death issue and had to take the Stand.

    Again, I did not try to stir the pot, i am only giving my insight. Take it as you wish, yell at me if you want.

    I don't make the laws or the rules. We live in a changing world.

    Cheers to all,

    Blizzman

  20. some peoples don t care ...

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    :unknw: I'm not sure of your meaning??? are you saying it's the clubs fault these riders are on the wrong side of the trail?? if common sense doesn't keep them on the right side of the trail I don't think a sign of any color will do it either..

    No but they can be sued for improper signage. There are no signs indicating stay right or hill.

    TÉ QUI TOÉ ????

    i just woke up ,be careful with your language !!!!

    groomer !!!

    c'est pas grave qui je suis.

    Click le lien et vous allez comprendre mes inquietude de signalisation.

    http://www.cyberpresse.ca/le-droit/actuali...d-poursuivi.php

    Je ne suis pas avec ce club.

    Publié le 22 décembre 2008 à 23h01 | Mis à jour le 22 décembre 2008 à 23h03

    Le club de motoneige Pingouins de Mansfield poursuivi

    Votre courriel

    Un entrepreneur forestier de Pembroke a déposé vendredi, une poursuite de 9 millions $ contre le club de motoneige Pingouins de Mansfield à la suite d'un accident survenu sur un des sentiers du club.

    Le 23 mars 2006, Shannon Clouthier faisait partie d'un convoi de 10 motoneiges parties de Rapides-des-Joachims en direction du Joncas Lodge, en empruntant les sentiers 43 et 63. M. Clouthier conduisait la seconde motoneige.

    La poursuite mentionne que si le premier motoneigiste a été en mesure de freiner à temps et éviter un banc de neige « invisible » sur cette section du sentier emprunté par le convoi, il en a été autrement pour M. Clouthier.

    Dans la poursuite, le procureur de ce dernier, Me Benoit Duclos soumet que son client n'a eu aucune possibilité d'éviter le banc de neige avec le résultat que sa motoneige s'est envolée et que la victime a terminé sa course dans le banc de neige de l'autre côté de la route qui est aussi empruntée par des véhicules transportant des troncs d'arbres.

    Me Duclos soumet qu'il s'agit d'un cas flagrant de mauvaise signalisation pour ne pas dire d'absence totale de signalisation.

    La configuration des lieux ne permettait aucunement de prévoir un virage à 90 degrés permettant de poursuivre le trajet vers le Joncas, souligne le poursuivant.

    12 heures au froid

    À la suite de cet accident survenu dans un endroit isolé à 70 kilomètres du moindre service, il a fallu 12 heures aux amis de M. Clouthier pour organiser son transport vers l'hôpital. En attente, la victime a donc été immobilisée dans le froid pendant tout ce temps.

    À la suite des blessures subies, l'incapacité physique de M. Clouthier qui avait 32 ans au moment de l'incident, a été évaluée à 65 % et il se retrouve donc dans l'impossibilité de continuer son emploi, se privant de revenus dépassant 250 000 $ par année.

    M. Clouthier réclame la somme de 8,7 millions $ pour lui-même, ainsi qu'un montant supplémentaire de 200 000 $ pour sa conjointe.

    La condition actuelle de M. Clouthier est entièrement imputable, selon la poursuite, à la négligence du club de motoneiges Pingouins de Mansfield.

  21. some peoples don t care ...

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    c. V-1.2, r.1.1

    Regulation respecting off-highway vehicles

    An Act respecting off-highway vehicles

    (R.S.Q., c. V-1.2, ss. 46 and 87 ; 2004, c. 27, s. 2)

    DIVISION 5

    OFF-HIGHWAY CLUB AND SIGNING

    15. All signs erected by an off-highway vehicle club on a trail it operates must be maintained in good condition by the club during the period of use of the trail.

    O.C. 1222-2004, s. 15.

    16. An off-highway vehicle club must erect a red, amber and green traffic signal at all trail crossings and at all intersections referred to in section 2 where there is no mandatory stop sign.

    O.C. 1222-2004, s. 16.

    17. Every off-highway vehicle club must erect the following signs on its trails :

    (1) the regulatory signs illustrated in Schedule 2, comprising the following :

    (a) a P-10 mandatory stop sign, in particular for the purposes of section 2 at a crossing of trails laid out for off-highway vehicle traffic or for another sport, unless there is a written agreement between the operators of the trails that ensures safety at the crossing ;

    (B) a P-70 speed limit sign ;

    © a P-70-P tab sign installed below a P-70 residential area sign, for the purposes of section 1 ;

    (d) a P-80-3 sign indicating two-way traffic ; and

    (e) a P-90-D sign indicating an obstruction to avoid ;

    (2) the warning signs illustrated in Schedule 3, comprising the following :

    (a) a D-10-1 sign indicating a stop sign ahead ;

    (B) a D-50-1 sign indicating a traffic signal ahead ;

    © a D-90-1 sign indicating the beginning of a divided trail ;

    (d) a D-90-2 sign indicating the end of a divided trail ;

    (e) D-110-1-D and D-110-1-G signs indicating a 90° curve ; and

    (f) D-290-D and D-290-G signs indicating an obstruction or other hazard ; and

    (3) the roadwork signs illustrated in Schedule 4, comprising the following :

    (a) a T-50-1 sign indicating roadwork ;

    (B) a T-50-P tab sign indicating the extent of the roadwork ;

    © T-80-9 and T-80-10 signs indicating that the trail is closed ;

    (d) T-90-1, T-90-2-D and T-90-2-G signs indicating a detour ; and

    (e) T-90-3-D and T-90-3-G signs indicating a detour ahead.

    O.C. 1222-2004, s. 17.

    18. The signs referred to in section 17 and every other sign erected by a club must be the following colours and bear the following markings and numerals :

    (1) regulatory signs must have a black border 6 millimetres in width set in 4 millimetres from the edge of the sign and bear a black symbol or black letters on a white background, except for the mandatory stop sign, which must bear white letters 127 millimetres in height and have a white border 12 millimetres in width on a red background ;

    (2) warning signs, with the exception of hazard markers, must have a black border 6 millimetres in width set in 4 millimetres from the edge of the sign and bear a black symbol on a yellow background, except for the D-10-1 sign, which is red ; and

    (3) roadwork signs must have a black border 6 millimetres in width set in 4 millimetres from the edge of the sign and bear a black symbol on an orange background.

    O.C. 1222-2004, s. 18.

    19. The sign shapes must be as follows :

    (1) regulatory signs must be rectangular, with the exception of the mandatory stop sign which must be octagonal ;

    (2) danger and roadwork signs must be diamond-shaped or square, with the exception of hazard markers which must be rectangular.

    O.C. 1222-2004, s. 19.

    20. The sign dimensions must be as follows :

    (1) rectangular signs : 300 mm x 375 mm ;

    (2) square and diamond-shaped signs : 300 mm x 300 mm.

    Despite subparagraph 1 of the first paragraph, the dimensions of D-290-D and D-290-G signs may not be less than 150 mm x 450 mm.

    Despite subparagraph 2 of the first paragraph, the dimensions of P-10, D-10 and D-50-1 signs may not be less than 450 mm x 450 mm.

    The dimensions of signs and the symbols and legend displayed on them may be greater than the dimensions prescribed in the first paragraph provided that the dimensions remain in proportion to each other.

    O.C. 1222-2004, s. 20.

    21. All signs must be covered with retroreflective sheeting, with the exception of the black items.

    O.C. 1222-2004, s. 21.

    22. The signs must be visible at all times and be placed on the right side of the trail, facing approaching traffic, not less than 500 millimetres or more than 2 metres from the area reserved for traffic.

    O.C. 1222-2004, s. 22.

    23. The distance between the bottom edge of the sign or tab sign and the level of the trail may not be less than 1 metre or more than 2 metres, unless that distance must be increased to ensure the sign remains visible above snow accumulations.

    O.C. 1222-2004, s. 23.

    24. Regulatory signs must be erected at the places where the requirement applies. Mandatory stop signs (P-10), however, must be placed as close as possible to the beginning of an intersection or road or railway crossing, at a distance of not more than 2 metres.

    Warning signs, with the exception of D-290-D and D-290-G signs, must be erected between 30 and 100 metres ahead of the obstruction or hazard.

    O.C. 1222-2004, s. 24.

    25. No illustration, publicity or tourist advertisement may be placed on a sign or sign post, or be installed in such a way as to obstruct a sign or signal.

    O.C. 1222-2004, s. 25.

    26. A trail whose lateral boundary lines are not marked by a fence or in another way and every trail which crosses a non-wooded area over a distance of more than 150 metres must be staked by the operator with red markers in the case of a snowmobile trail and with blue markers in the case of an all-terrain vehicle trail. The markers must be placed on both sides of the trail at intervals not exceeding 90 metres.

    Each marker must be not less than 25 millimetres in diameter and not less than 1.5 metres in height ; the height of a marker must be increased as required to ensure it remains visible above snow accumulations.

    Each marker must have a strip or plate of a resistant material 25 millimetres in width by 75 millimetres in height securely fixed to its upper edge. The surface of the strip or plate must be white or yellow and be covered with retroreflective sheeting.

    O.C. 1222-2004, s. 26.

    This is a 2000$ fine to the club. Want me to send them one?

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