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We are 2 right now to go! If you want to join us, you are welcome. We will be in the parking of The Massif arround 07h30-07h45. Departure at 08.00 -08h15 max!! Hope to see you there!! All the best QcRiders!

1989, route du Massif St-Philémon, Bellechasse Québec, Canada G0R 4A0 How long were the guns on? They begin Sunday, November 11

Hi scorpionbowl!! There is nothing that connects Mount Valins to the Massif. I just want to tell you that there is not just Mont Valin there is the snow very early in the season. There are other places that Saguanay to ride .... and it's closer!! Right now in mount Valin ( Relais la Chappel) only 6 inchs http://www.freewebs.com/chap_jal/aujourdhui.htm Massif du Sud today....17 inchs on the top...... Regards,

I will not forget GTSE800!! :D

Hello everyone! It fell 50 cm of snow is the last 72 hrs at the Massif. I officially announce you that I will have my first ride Saturday! Yes! Go see that!! http://www.massifdusud.net/photodujour.asp?page=2 http://www.massifdusud.net/conditions.asp More pics to come.... saturday night

Yes, you can go over there. But it's not 10km after...It' 2 -3km before L'Étape! The gates of hell '' Les portes de l'enfer'' and the ''L'Auberge'' Hotel are the SEPAQ(Société des Etablissements de Plein Air du Québec) homeland!! http://www.sepaq.com/rf/lau/en/activite.html :D

I like the speed of ADMDQ on this!! :clapping: We must not wait after our government....that's for sure!!

Hard reality!! :wacko:

No not to early, The guy started at this place! I believe that there will be a lot of people this weekend!!

It's that this idiot who said that: "the economic impact of snowmobiling in the park des Monts is almost nil." It takes a thick without economic education to make such statements! Hey, The noodle, I go to Quebec to go to your park, do you think I parachuted! Hotel, gas, food, restaurants, it's your region, which benefits from that. Do you think really, I am doing 600 km in my car to make snowshoeing or cross-country skiing! I can do in my court, juste behind my house. Now, I believe that economic stakeholders in the region will awaken this huluberlu because I'm tired to read such rubbish. It is time that snowmobiles Saguenay unite and challenge this intelligently lit! The ADMDQ must respond to this article! This press because it is running out of time! =@

It's more than that!! I translated the article in the newspaper falardeau! On Wednesday, 07 November 2007 Snowmobiling harm's PARK DEVELOPMENT OF MONTS-VALIN Cohabitation is impossible. From Roger Blackburn. The Daily SAINT-FULGENCE The presence of snowmobiles prevents the Parc National des Monts Valins to develop and exploit its potential for ecotourism winter. Ecotourism and snowmobiling can not coexist harmoniously in the same territory. The leaders of this protected area see the problem grow over the past few years and come to the fact that the snowmobile trail that crosses the park should be diverted outside the confines of the Green Zone. For three years, the park is experiencing a boom in attendance impressive. Thus, it grew by 30% last winter, compared to the winter of 2006 which resulted in a record ridership. "We want to buy tractors transit, build new cabins, organizing activities observation for skiers, snowshoers, hiking or cross-country skiing. That's a lot of people in the territory and there is a single trail to travel in the park, a trail that is used by snowmobilers, "says Francis Guillot, director of the Parc National des Monts. Over the past year there have been two collisions between the shuttle tracks and snowmobiles. "We get groups of young people from the educational world. When they arrived at the summit of the peak Hut (the highest peak in the region), after a long hike snowshoes and snowmobiles cross in the trails that lead at the top, it does not work. It can not coexist "repeat Francis Guillot. One of the main attractions of the park in winter is the peak of the Hut. However, the conflict of use of this territory prevents international ecotourists visit this beautiful scenery. Visitors who attend the conservation parks do not want to meet snowmobile. They are looking for quiet activities, without noise and without pollution. "People who buy these types of packages want peace. They are willing to pay for experiences in nature soothing," argues the director of the park. The presence of snowmobiling is already causing logistical problems in the park, which are likely to worsen in the winter of 2008. Moreover, adds Francis Guillot, the economic impact of snowmobiling in the park des Monts is almost nil. "The snowmobilers who use the path through the park without paying fees. They go to the peak of the hut and they stay there for 15 minutes. They look at the overall picture and continue their journey without leaving a dime in the Park" , "said Francis Guillot. He also said he was ready to negotiate a bypass road to the park with snowmobile clubs in the sector to develop new heights, and even participate in the maintenance and modifications of the trail. The massive mountains Valin is a territory of over 6900 square kilometers, which has about 1200 km of snowmobile trails. Meanwhile, the Parc National des Monts is a territory 154 square kilometers crossed by a single road, monopolized by snowmobilers. "People think we want to go out snowmobiling Mountains Valin. Is totally false. The park is a small territory compared to the overall Mountains Valin which has two ZEC and endless opportunities for hiking off-trail" , supports Raymond Desjardins, vice president Sépaq park, the Crown corporation that manages national parks in Quebec. "We are not against the development of the snowmobile. Rather we believe that it is a very profitable product for the regional economy. Snowmobile The product will continue to grow without crossing the national park. Order to develop tourism at its winter maximum we should not put all your eggs in one basket. Snowmobilers can use the 6750 square kilometers of "whipped cream" that line the mountain but we must leave the park operate a different clientele who pay packages for three days make snowshoeing and hiking in the park, "argues Raymond Desjardins, which confirms that the presence of snowmobiles constraining investment of several million dollars on the protected territory. "The snowmobilers did not climb to the summit of Valinouët or at the top of Mount Edward or at the top of Mount Tremblant, and neither at the top of Mount Washington. Yet all these sectors come to actively develop the snowmobile industry," compares Francois Guillot, director of the Parc National des Monts. "We are not opponents of the snowmobile, far from it. Recognition is the impact of this industry but we must leave the park develop its niche ecotourism to diversify supply winter on the mountains Valin," supports the leader of the Sépaq. The Crown corporation said that he was even ready to participate in the promotion of Valin Mountains in advertising campaigns and to say that the snowmobile can be practiced on more than 1200 kilometers of trails around the protected area. Mountains Valin do not belong exclusively to snowmobilers. The ecotourists may also be part of the development of winter tourism, claim managers Sépaq. Source: Tourism Association of Lake St. John Snowmobilers are paying taxes and should also be entitled to access to parks have otherwise speaks of unjustified discrimination ...place there is for everyone ... live and let live. In approximately 7 million popullation for an area larger than several countries, I believe that everyone should find his account. But such article does not help, because it causes intolerance and contempt on both sides ...

Hi Rob in Ottawa! Realy nice cottage!! One of our supplier in Ottawa(Leduc Bus Line), which is a good friend of mine at the same time make, It makes a lot of snowmobile too! And you QcRiders! !

Exactly Actionjack!! But Rob you will have to take 369 trail before the TQ23 to go at the Relais L'Étape!! Gaz & Food!! Here the map for you as well as some pic for the ride of last nov. with my father in law!! RELAIS DU BELL Have a nice & safe ride!!

Hi Rob from Ottawa! If you want to be as close as possible to the park, the last city Stoneham! Perhaps you know the name because of Stoneham ski resort! You have hotel over there. After that, take the 175 north. You will pass in front Fracinette restaurant. Very good place to have breakfast before a good ride! After full stomach, Hi!hi!! You will drive until you arrive at a gaz station with a couple of house! If it's like last year the guy who one the place ask for a small 5 $ to pack truk and trail!! The trail pass at the end of the parking. Keep you right & have a nice ride my friend!! But be very carreful.... BECAUSE I think that they are no sign in the trails right now! But I'M not sure! All the best!!

If I would not be going to Boston ..... I would surely be there Saturday morning!! :wacko: I just read your signature ... too hilarious!.... :rofl:

Oups!!! Wrong place my friend!! The park is located between Quebec and Lake St-Jean!! But we also call this place The Reserve laurentians ''Réserve Faunique des Laurentides'' We must pass in this park to go to the Saguenay-Lac-St-Jean! On road 175 north!! Take a look on this map!! Can you tell me if you were able to open the file attached? All the best!

Bonjour!! Lot of snow in the Laurentide park. The road was closed for a few hours !! Here somes pictures of a member of another forum! These photos were taken this morning! Believe it or not, but that is just around the corner! I really look forward for this snow!| The guy said that at the bottom, you have couple of small rock. But on the top of the mountains, it is perfect! They announce snow for this weekend in the pack! Unfortunately for me, I will be in Boston for the weekend! :sad:

Hello! Some members are responding positively. We are 190 members in Qcrider web site! Come on, :clapping: Don't be shy. ;) Shown us your place!! All the best!

Here in other words! The local people call this place: Mountain Radar ''la montagne du Radar'' In fact the name is: The Mount St. Pierre ''la Montagne St-Pierre'' It is located near La Redemption north of Sayabec in the east and Amqui which is southeast!! At a height of 2950 feet

Happy Birthday!! Have a good season phil1!! All the best!!

Groomer!! I just talked with a client today from..................................... Matapédia!! École des Deux Rivières!! 12 Boulevard Perron Est!! Unfortunately, it does not know any groomer! ! We have good laughs, because my client make snowmobile! !

Thanks Rob! I will try to give you (Qcriders) the best infomations on my region during the next winter! As well as the HONEST SNOW AND TRAIL CONDITIONS in Chaudière-Appalaches for 2007-2008! Like Bernard in Shawinigan!! I like this web site and I will do everything in my power to help Qc riders in their trip planning. I like the fact that our two countries can help each other........ not like our governments & the ''libre-échange'' If I can help only one person, It will be worth it !! All the best!

I don't know how to translate this expression ... but I try........correct me if I'm wrong! Once you have tasted it, can no longer do without it

Hi Greg!! I will always be a member! For the price and for the cover that we have....It would be stupid not to get that! In addition, they are very close to the table of dialogue on the off-road vehicles(snowmobile & ATV) that the government established. Well, I'm from St-Nérée-de-bellechasse! It's between Lévis & Montmagnmy...in the back country..more or less half and hour from both cities!! Can even be your tour guide...for free, if you pass in the week-end! All the best Greg!!

Incredible! Put the sound on... it's different from other clip! WOW! :good: :good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKn9kOtVgEg What do you think about this clip?