grumpysanta

thanks for the pics and info , maybe we will hook up one day , you seem to get out quite a bit , you ride around the st. zenon area and parcs , i used to go up there a lot . but not much lately. have a good day.

yes a little more snow , but that slope or cliff has no SNOW . poor choice for get off ramp

I tried them out today and they work great but i would not follow someone to close who has these installed cause they throw every thing ice, rocks and the second sled will get beat up and the rider too ,, it will chip the paint right off the cab

ok good i was up today and rode 200km, for the afternoon , trails are in good shape , but that lake mcdonald exit off the lake south bound is crazy ,

YES I WILL PROBABLY BE WORKIN THERE. IF YOU GO BY RIGAUD PLEASE PUT SOME AT THE YAMAHA DEALER

races are in the ( pine hill area ) at the same place as last year and the trails in the area are in good shape for that club check there web site www. club hibou blanc or link from fcmq.

ok thanks i like the zx model have you heard how it is doing ?

please check my reply to your answer also i did not know bouvin made a long track version for the expert , is that a 144 inch. ?

dalhousie club was having thier annual poker run this saturday i was told today , i guess people will use their cars or 4 wheelers for this one cause you guessed it NO SNOW!!!!!!!!!

I agree with you on most ,, save a few ounces by putting in cheap but pricey parts ie. the idler wheels with no replacment bearings , I weight 270 so saving 2 pounds means very little . no new high tech stuff either too complicated for a off road vechile , dependable is what i want . I have 2 motorcycles , one is a fjr 1300 and i put lots of miles on her and nothing breaks , its rock solid and lasts for years with just maintance . SO WHEN DID WE EXCEPT ALL THIS POOR QUALITY FROM SLEDS THAT COST ABOUT THE SAME PRICE ! THE PRICE OF A CAR

ALL SLEDS HAVE PROBLEMS , yam is good for the 4storke motors but have gone cheap on other things like Wheels and bearings and bushings in front A arms and have slide problems and exhaust breakage, some nitros have weak front tables and apex have weak w arms in the rear , slides have been a big pain also, where other sleds ride in anything . We burn up in 10 miles of poor conditions . so we have repairs with all sleds but seldom with the motor BUT IT IS ALOT CHEAPER TO REPAIR THE OLDER ONES THAN TO CHANGE BECAUSE THEY GIVE US CRAP PRICES FOR OUR TRADE INS.

yamaha has fallen on their hard head to think we will pay $17000 PLUS FOR A SLED FOR THE WINTERS WE ARE HAVING . May be this is the Japanese version of H.D. Keep the old and let them stockpile the new ones , power steering or not . yams will break we have seen this for some time now , since 03. Parts are expensive , esp. yams . and do we need this teck shit , or let them build a proper dependable sled that we can afford , I for one will hold on to my old sled and leave the new ones for the people with too much money. PS. it is also a joke what yam wants to give you for a trade , why does used sleds drop even when new sleds go up from 12000 to 17500 $ in 5 years and has used sleds gone up at all ????

check the fcmq web site updates every thursday , and you can check the link to the club web also www.amvn.qc.ca i believe

PARK AND FLY where have i heard that before

make shure you call ahead for snow condition , i just talked to a motel owner in st anne de lac and he said snow was ok , sledders up and out riding , they did not get much rain monday and expect more snow tomm. good luck

Good to see wife likes to ride her own , parant and clova area is great sledding but i would not go alone as it is in the booneys with very little traffic , but if your wife is ok with a possible tow deal if you break down , its good , hotel Tamerac in clova is good , or go east out of parent , usually cold in the morn. I have been there at - 50 and it was cold , but warms up quick ...goood luck

those are Kimpex scratchers i believe

Leave from maniwaki , check snow after the rain monday , easy cruise for two up sled , and places to park.

please let me know if you had any problems with certain makes

ok check ty forum apex section for ice scratchers on jan. 24. log in and it will show pics.

ok now i understand your answer , but i knew that ! I saw a forum where a guy said he could not find a place on rails to put them so he adapted them to the skis and they work great he said because it gets to throw ice on the whole suspension and some gets to the front heat exchanger , I know some company sells them for the skis only but not that one...

what part of my question did you not understand and yes thanks i know yamaha has them..

you can mount them on your skies supposed to be better