quebec bob
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Nice ride and pics are worth a 1000 words. Don,t get to crazy about the perceived poor fuel milage, all the numbers you hear are under best conditions with a lot of throttle controll. An apex probably is really 14mpg at 60mph touring, if you take off easy and use a lot of steady throttle under 70 mph you will go 145 miles on a tank. The four stroke motor makes a ton of tourque down low at say 2800 rpm and why they have clutch engagement at 4300 is a huge mystery to me. There is more torque down at that rpm on that 1200 than an 800 makes at 4500 rpm, just look at the dyno charts. I put an aaen 4 tower clutch on a 2005 warrior with a team roller in the secondary and bring the clutch in at 2850 and with 4 fly weight holding the belt you take off without reving the engine and the sled really hooks well at that speed so you have great traction and you can roll on the throttle and go, also made the sled a lot faster, LIKE 8 MPH. this set up goes 145 miles on a tank and I have never run out of gas and it is also a lot easier on the sled, all about effiency, but if I go 80 to 90 all day 110 miles is all you will go.I have the same set-up on a supercharged 2005 vector and you can go 165 on a tank at 60.
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Glad to hear that trail is open as it is vital to system with gas, food and lodging at relay 22, one of the more popular stops for hardcore travelers. I always enjoyed that trail , it was like road course america, but you did have to pay attention to oncoming trafic and it was not easy to get around a groomer either. One of the nice things about Quebec is the diversity in trails that you will encounter, and that was a memorable trail.
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Mike, I just bought a 12 by 8.5 Blizzard with a ramp for dive in and out. This seems to be better than my old tilt bed. The best thing I did was get it with 2 axles , 4 13 inch wheels, you do not even know you are pulling it, extremely nice, good luck, Bob.
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I was up there this past weekend with doobraap. We rode from Jackman, ME to Rivier-du-Loup on Saturday and back to Jackman on Sunday. We took the 75-35-545-5-526-5-561-35-55-75, all in good to great shape. A little frozen rain on Saturday night.
how many miles from Jackman to Rivier-du-loop?
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How far is it from Jackman, Maine to Riviera DuloopJust got back from a 900 miler in 4 days. Left St Victor to Beauceville to Saint Pamphile to Poheenagamok to Riviere Bleu to Clair to Fort Kent to Van Buren to Edmunston to Moose Valley to Bien Coup to Cabano to Pohenagamook to Lac Des L'Est to Saint Magliore to Lac Frontier to Saint Sabine to Lac Etchemin to Beauceville and back to Saint Victor. All trails except east and west of Lac Etchemin were a perfect 10, most without a sled track on them except ours. Also encountered a very dangerous condition on the trail from St Joseph to St Jacques. Their was a high banked chute about 200 feet long which had a spring at the top feeding water down it and the entire thing was glare ice. Luckily no one coming and rode it out to the bottom. Called the club and they ware trying to come up with a fix for the week-end. Also appreciated the re-route to Beauceville on 75. Only thing is there is just about the same amount of trail on the road and the first warm-up we will be riding blacktop again (or dirt). Looks like they kind of exchanged routes and came up with the same thing.
NB, Maine and QC otherwise is open for business as usual. Normal Febuary conditions!!!
Karl
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595 was great when i was up just have to deal with some plowed roads around the loging camp
The weather report for the end of this week says 15 inches of snow for the area of outer and central peninsula as well as New Brunswick. Even though it is school vacation snow conditions should be perfect next week!!
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This will eliminate the problem.
Yes there are a lot of additives but nothing is as good as FRESH FUEL!!! Someone made the comment about a lot of early season troubles, at the end of the season you should do next seasons prep work, drain the fuel from the tank and carburetors if you have carburetors and leave them empty until next season 2 stoke or 4 stroke. Older sleds should have the fuel lines replaced with new ethanol approved fuel hose unless you have the clear plastic line you can see through. Floats and needle valves just do not like to sit in stagnant degrading fuel for 9 or 10 months!! Fuel injected sleds fair a little better but should have fuel treatment before storage and run the engine a while after putting it in. The best kept secret to all storage is to store it someplace that stays around the same temperature preferably cool,like a dark basement, but not damp, this makes a world of difference. If your sled is not prepped and sit in your trailer in the blazing sun and then cools at night these vented tanks and fuel systems will evaporate the fuel and the shit left behind in the float bowls will wash into the carburetor circuits on start up next season and narrow down the arteries and run the engine lean and hot and you will surely burn down. That is just the way it is with seasonal equipment from boats to lawn mowers and sleds and snow blowers. If you can afford a sled and a trip or two to Canada you can afford to stop at the dealer on the last trip home in the spring to prevent engine failure on next seasons first ride, and I bet this cost much less than pistons and cylinders. NOW SOMEBODY DO A SNOW DANCE SO WE CAN RIDE!!
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I have 23 seasons in Quebec, in the old days I wore Cold Wave leathers, back when leather was thick and high quality like you do not see anymore. They were great but on warmer days you would sweat then as the day wore on and got cold at days end you would get cold too. I bought Klim last season and was a little skeptical when I saw how light they were. I was afraid something this light would never keep me warm at -40.I was dead wrong, there layering system is great and it is amazing to shed all the weight and feel like you are wearing a wind breaker. I will warn you to size it one size up because their fit is a little to small and it is a pain to get mail order the wrong size!! I have also heard that Coho is very good as well, and cheaper, just not as comfortable and light, but it works extremely well. This decision will be made with your wallet and both will be very good.I'm considering buying the Klim Klimate Jacket and Bibs, does any one have any experience with these, good, bad or ugly, will they keep me warm and dry ,while riding in Quebec in January-February? Let me know your thoughts, as this is a major investment, and I'd like to make an informed decision! thanks.
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Three of us took a little Gaspesie Loop and contrary to popular belief the trail conditions were spectacular!! I have a short report and a very few pictures, I apologize for the pictures but once you have done this area as many times as I have you don't take as many,
Day 1
We left from Pointe a la Croix, it was a little scratchy out in front of the motel but by the time we went 1 kilometer or to the first look-out the trails were great. We traveled the TQ 5 till we got to the local trail that leads to Albertville, we went and had a coffee with Groomer (nope he didn't have wine!!! LOL) We left there taveled into Causapscal where we took the local trails up through Saint Alexandre, Saint Tharcius, and Saint Vianney coming out on the east side of Matane. We continued east and had lunch at the St Paulin Relais, then to Mont Saint Pierre for the night 285 miles. The trails were perfect all day.
Day 2
Took off early from MSP, stopped at the look-out for a picture or two then south on the 597 to Murdochville. After a call to Patsy we decided against Perce. We continued south on the 597 for about 50 miles till we got to the local trail that goes east out to the coast just south of the town of Gaspe. The trails to this point were some of the best I have ever ridden on. We then turned North on the TQ5 the trails here were great as well, however there were two sections one around Sunny Bank and the other a few miles north of there again ( both right around the town of Gaspe) they were scratchy and bare by spots both around 3/4 of a mile in length then back to great snow. We continued around the tip through Riviere Renaud, Petiete Vallee, etc... We stopped in one spot and took a picture of a guy that had shoveled the eves out on his camp to get at it ( over 9' of snow on the level!!). Great trails all day. We ended the day back in Murdochville giving us a 305 mile day.
Day 3
Left Murdochville and headed to La Cache, again great trails. The last 10 mile going into La Cache is rerouted and the scenery is spectacular to say then least. The last mile going into La Cache was a bit scratchy as well with a few bare spots, not the end of the world. Going out of La Cache toward St Paulin you have about 7 miles that have been plowed and you have to travel on a hard ice base. I put the ice scratchers down on my sled and there was no issues, one of the other guys had to duck off into the edge every now and then for a little loose snow and lubrication, none of us had any issues. We stopped for lunch at St Paulin again, then on toward Matane. We went west of Matane and onto the 591 stopping at the Abrupte in Sainte Paule for a coolie. We parked for the night at Pastili in Amqui. 175 miles. Another day of great trails.
Day 4
After drinking too much the night before, we left Amqui and headed down to the Albertville Club for breakfast (no sign of Groomer, I suspect he drank too much the night before too). We then took the 587 back toward Pointe a la Croix, this trail has also been rerouted and is now very scenic. It was very bare for about 3/4 of a mile going through the town of Matepedia other than that this trail was fabulous. 140 miles for the morning. We got back to the truck by noon on Sunday and very regretably headed for home.
Trip total was 904 miles and maybe 3 miles of poor trail. Everything was groomed to perfection, no traffic, great weather and great people all along the route.
Sorry for the size of the pictures, I have a new Photo Editing program and haven't mastered it yet. I have a hard time reading your post here in Mass. where it is 50 and I know all too well that I am done for the year....really sucks knowing it is over for 10 months....you will probably get in 2 more weeks there, great post just the same!!
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Thanks for the update Kel. Relais 22 shouldn't be a problem since you dont hit Roberval. The Question is what do you do from 22? 83 west has ~10-15 miles of probably dirt road in to Wemo, and 73 to LaTuque is also probably bad. Edge, Val Dor should be a great starting point, worst case you go out and back 93 and hit part of 83.
We just went on the same trip as Kel and I was thinking the very same thing ...wondering how to get back to their trucks at Cabanon from Relay 22...they will probably ride back toward the West and come down 345 then just deal with the last 25 miles across the hydro dam...they certainly do not want to try 33...that hill behind Montgnard in St Michelle is not even worth trying....for sure they got the very best of what was left in a terrible season. Figuring out the last leg will be better than what most of us are doing, I would trade places in a flash!!
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ON THE COVER OF THE ROLLING STONE!
Couple weeks ago while riding from the HI towards the Casino/Castle, 182Ray, Farmerold and I ran into Snowtrails TV out of Michigan. They were doing a story on sledding in Quebec. We met the crew at an intersection and they did a long interview with us.
The episide is now on-line for viewing. We got our 15 minutes of fame, but when the film hit the cutting room, 15 minutes became about 3 seconds. You can see us about 5 or so minutes into the episode.
This episode is currently available to view on their website. Sounds like next season they may have more footage.
Boulanais Relais waitress got more airtime than us, go figure?? (I know, very bad spelling).
Mike
Mike, my friend and I did a photo shoot for Super Trax 8 years ago in St Zenon, spent the whole day with them and we managed to be part of a photo in the article but were never mentioned.....the article amazed us....it really had nothing to do with anything that was said or done that day....but it was fun. thanks for your trail reports this season, we will be riding the Vallins area next week,,,we are leaving from Shawinigan on Tuesday.
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simply amazing that Canada will put 25 million into the trail system, 70 % of the riders are from USA...a smart business move to better their trail system and bring outside $$$ into Canada from tourism, they already have the best system in the world and continue to invest and improve it. hats off to them, this is great news for all of us who truly love this sport and our friends north of the border.....MANY THANKS ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US WHO LOVE TO RIDE ID CANADA!!!The Prime Minister took my E-Tec for a ride on Friday while announcing $25,000,000 in Infrastructure funding for Trails across Canada.The Big Guy and I
Trip Report and a Big thank you to Smclelan & Groomer
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Bill, you did not mention St. Anne Du monts, or Mt. St. Pierre on the North side of the Gaspe, if you missed that you must go back and also plan a couple of days to loop down thru New Brunswick, this is a very special place to ride for sure. I rode Quebec and Ontario for 20 years before going to Gaspe and New Brunswick and was really shocked at how much more exciting and interesting it was, the raw beauty is nearly incomparable, glad you had a great ride.