Greasemonkey

Maybe if you can't understand why people are telling you to watch where you do this then maybe YOU shouldn't post on this site. The people that are the regular posters on this site have been riding Canada for decades. They know how critical it is to respect the landowner who graciously allows us to ride the trails through his land. They also know that these same landowners generally do NOT want people riding off the marked trail all over their land. Yes, there are places to do the boon-docking but generally, it is not in the East. Mostly all land is private. You say you've been riding 18 years. If that is true, then you already know that it is usually frowned upon to ride off trail. Also, most of the people here ride about 5 to 10,000 miles a year. That kind of experience usually teaches one the etiquette that is needed to keep this sport alive. If you read the replies to your original post the way they were meant to read, you will see that all we are saying is get permission to ride where you want to ride BEFORE you do it. For a newbie, you sure made it a point to blast the people trying to help keep the sport a reality.

They're grooming in Tug Hill!

Time to start planning the trips, now that we know we can ride all our normal routes!

OMG, That is great! Where is that?

Looks like Tug Hill when they got that blast of 96" in what, 24 hrs.?

Unfortunately, no matter how much some of us preach the importance of NOT drinking while riding, there are some out there who will insist that they can handle it and that others should mind their business. I always cringe when I walk into a relay and the tables are loaded with empty beer bottles. don't get me wrong, I'll have a half dozen or so at dinner and after but I'm in for the night. Well, here's another reason why some of us preach and the season didn't even start!

That's outstanding news, Bill. Let's all keep our fingers crossed. Looks like some early snow is falling in many places, hope this is a good sign.

I'm glad you avoid drinking and grooming, the trails stay straighter that way!

I have to take a cold shower!!

I couldn't have said it better! In this world of everything being "politically correct", it's great to hear a public figure say what's really on his mind.

Thanks Again Alain, Your posts on this region are always well informed and appreciated. Hope to cross paths with you someday at La Glacier or Cabanon. As for these changes, not really that big a deal. I usually take the Caribou turn anyway, although, I use to like stopping at the cafeteria. With the mileage the newer sleds get anymore, gas should not be a factor unless you don't start off with a full tank before heading into that area. LET THE SNOW FLY!!!!

I started to watch it and had to stop half way thru. If that's real then this world is going crazier than I thought. That's as bad as the anti hunters standing in front of loaded guns. Where do people find the time and energy to even worry about this stuff? Why aren't they out contributing to the economy of the world?

If you get fuel in either St. Zenon, or St. Michel, you should make it all the way to Mt. Laurier or St. Donat. Like Alain said, problem would be for those who don't know the cafeteria is gone and are coming from Mt. Laurier and don't stop at L'Annonciation, and try to go to St. Donat. Can't see why the cafeteria closed since they are only losing the 1 trail. I had thought that the trail to the west was closing too. I can't see where they would be losing that much business. You can still get there from all 3 directions.

I can't tell you how many times I have argued this subject. I agree 100% about the drinking part. I find it sad when you stop at a relay and see all the snowmobilers sitting around with countless, empty beer bottles on their tables. Or, when your up in Old Forge and around 2 am the ambulance alarm goes off and you find out the next day that someone hit a tree 15 feet in the air after he missed a turn and hit a berm at about 90 mph, and, he was drunk. As for the loud pipes, especially at night, this is not the '70's people. Loud pipes are so dated. They serve no purpose at all. If you need more power, buy a bigger sled. If you know that nobody wants to hear them, not to mention that they are banned in just about all riding areas, why would you insist on putting them on? As far as staying on the marked trail, someone has to tell me why you just wouldn't do that out of respect to the landowner. I will admit that there were times when I'd be going through the fields in a whiteout and "lost" the markers. I think that the reflectors could be a little closer in some wide open areas. Everything Shane has said is 100% spot on. The typical person that falls into these categories are the little rich kid city slickers who get whatever they want from mommy and daddy and no matter what they do wrong, mommy and daddy get them out of it. They are the same people who have no clue how to act around a boat ramp, but, that's another forum. I know I'll get some flak for the people description but think about it.

Did you get to run the excavator yet?

Just signed it, also. Hopefully it will work.

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I hope this is wrong. That was a nice place to stop. Always good food and always busy. it's a shame, all these places closing up like they are. I guess they figure why stay open if you can't get to it because of this Park ruling. That does make sense, just a shame it's coming to this.

I should've known by the snow depth.

Not sure, is this the pump along side of the "cafeteria"?

That's what I do for a living, I'm a union operating engineer. If I was single, I would offer my services in a heartbeat! I think it would be fascinating doing that.

Welcome sno strm. As the season comes, and we get into winter, you will be amazed at the knowledge and the info you will get on this site. Hey Groomer, the first pic in this group is my background for my Blackberry!

Went there a couple of times years ago. Awesome place to visit. I actually went there as part of 2 separate vacations to fish off Nova Scotia. It's amazing when you see the waterline at low tide versus high tide.

Went there as part of my Honeymoon tour of Canada. Loved the tour and the history. P.S., is anyone sick of the 95 degree weather everyday? Come on winter!!

What a shame. JMO, but it seems like these fires are getting worse everytime. Our thoughts go out to all the reservations and relays that are going to be affected this time around. I would imagine there will be quite a few re-routes in the trail system next year. Prey for rain.