iceman Posted September 25, 2021 Report Posted September 25, 2021 How many groomers (surfacers) do all the clubs combined in The FCMQ have in total? Go ahead guess? Quote
iceman Posted September 25, 2021 Author Report Posted September 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Signfan said: 350 Good guess but not correct. Keep em coming Quote
MrGutz Posted September 25, 2021 Report Posted September 25, 2021 None, its still summer! LOL 426? GutZ iceman 1 Quote
iceman Posted September 25, 2021 Author Report Posted September 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, MrGutz said: None, its still summer! LOL 426? GutZ Another good guess. No cigar. Guess again Quote
smclelan Posted September 25, 2021 Report Posted September 25, 2021 I am going to guess 460 +/- Quote
iceman Posted September 25, 2021 Author Report Posted September 25, 2021 26 minutes ago, smclelan said: I am going to guess 460 +/- Warmer but + Quote
iceman Posted September 25, 2021 Author Report Posted September 25, 2021 25 minutes ago, farmerold said: 550 Good guess but too many 17 minutes ago, Pipemaster said: 575 Good guess but way too many Quote
iceman Posted September 25, 2021 Author Report Posted September 25, 2021 490 with almost half of them being more than 10 years old fun fact for today dooright, Pipeman and jak 3 Quote
Signfan Posted September 26, 2021 Report Posted September 26, 2021 Yeah Ontario went through this a few years ago. Aging fleet and no plan to replace it with the majorityof the equipment being closer to 15 years old. They ended up overhauling the entire provinces funding model. Pooled all permit money, started paying clubs based on hours groomed (something like $75 an hour), a small amount per km of trail they had, some money for admin and then kept the balance to buy new equipment. Started buying groomers in bulk and distributing them across the province. They also fund major repairs to units that made sense from this fund. Big kicker in it was a reduction in the total number of units in operation to make the math work on replacement on an ongoing basis. It's worked, but I wouldn't say it's perfect. The fleet reduction is arguably not the best thing to occur, but was done in the name of utilization and efficiency. Will be interesting to see if Quebec goes down this road. For fleet procurement I can't see it not being beneficial to pool resources and buy in bulk. FCMQ is currently putting $14 a permit into a groomer replacement fund. This will be around $1,000,000 a season provincially. Probably 10% of what they actually need to be spending. The clubs will be funding the balance of the purchases under the current model. FCMQ is typically ahead of everyone else, but I think it could be argued that Ontario has jumped ahead on this issue. Interesting to see how much equipment the FCMQ has in operation. Spanky in Pembroke and mikerider 2 Quote
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