iceman 5,213 Report post Posted April 9, 2015 Interesting read here. http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Engines-Dont-Just-Happen.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil 1 568 Report post Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) Hey I'm a Yamaha Guy... Interesting read, Thanks Don. Edited April 9, 2015 by Phil 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcstar 138 Report post Posted April 9, 2015 It'a amazing how "everything" on the Yamaha motor is better than the Ace motor! I wish this would of come out sooner, I just spring checked a 900 Ace! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vt_bluyamaha54 119 Report post Posted April 9, 2015 Thanks for sharing that Iceman. Many of the points may be lost on the non-technical but for those that 'get it', the seemingly subtle differences add up and the proof is in the longevity. A Vector recently completed 99,956 miles without any motor rebuilds or failures - just normal by-the-book maintenance. - Interesting that the piece you shared came out of Yamaha Canada - haven't seen anything down here yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GT Rider 1,445 Report post Posted April 9, 2015 Trickle down technology from a robust motorcycle race program. It looks very well thought out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
800steve 532 Report post Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) Great engine, if they put one in a skidoo, I would buy it. But only if it would start at -25? Edited April 11, 2015 by 800steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil 1 568 Report post Posted April 11, 2015 800steve cheap shot I have seen all 4 brands start and NOT start in very cold weather. Take that $hit to HCS it's not welcome here!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jackstraw 906 Report post Posted April 11, 2015 800steve cheap shot I have seen all 4 brands start and NOT start in very cold weather. Take that $hit to HCS it's not welcome here!!! Little cranky this morning? LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
800steve 532 Report post Posted April 11, 2015 800steve cheap shot I have seen all 4 brands start and NOT start in very cold weather. Take that $hit to HCS it's not welcome here!!! Not looking to give CHEAP SHOTS, just my thoughts, Having owned a few Yamaha bikes I know they build great motors. But there sleds are not for me in the extreme cold. I ride with a few that are no starts on the bad mornings. Seems more of a Yami problem than others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davemod04 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2015 Yamaha propaganda, sorry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zeusand 334 Report post Posted April 11, 2015 I know guys that have Yamaha four strokes and they are very reliable.The doo four strokes are also reliable. The bottom line is after 15 or 20 thousand miles the chassis and everything else is slowly becoming junk and who wants to ride a sled with 20,000 miles on it especially if your saddle bagging and driving 500 miles with the trailer to go on vacation. IMO even with a 4 stroke you need a new sled after twenty thousand miles unless you're putting around your cabin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iceman 5,213 Report post Posted April 11, 2015 The no start problem is real, but there are solutions that work. Would rather deal with no start in morning then not finishing a trip or a day on another brand when it's done running. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markusvt 663 Report post Posted April 11, 2015 I think it's a feature. When it's too cold it makes the decision you don't need to ride, not a bad thing really. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
800steve 532 Report post Posted April 11, 2015 I think it's a feature. When it's too cold it makes the decision you don't need to ride, not a bad thing really. Maybe Yamaha is smarter than we think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grumpysanta 142 Report post Posted April 12, 2015 YAMAHA has the best motors but the rest of the machine breaks as much as any other maybe more , we have 4 in our group that spring checked brp sleds Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trailblazer 907 Report post Posted April 12, 2015 No comment at this time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eddieskidoo 60 Report post Posted April 12, 2015 No comment at this time NO COMMENT ??? that's not like you ...... ha ha ha !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil 1 568 Report post Posted April 12, 2015 800Steve sorry I guess I misunderstood your statement. I do agree that 20,000 miles is too many on any sled, I was just glad to get back to the truck and finally complete a trip. I will surely ride a 4 stroke and the Yamaha on it's initial run was very nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lindasledgirl 289 Report post Posted April 12, 2015 I had a Yamaha. Great sled. It seemed too heavy for me and didn't hug the trail like my skidoo. I don't need it to last 20,000 km. I would rather buy new and not have to repair replace maintain and store. My trade this year is $3000 and that's ok with me. 6100 km send her back. Get my new ride in time for Mont Vallin dec 6 th. All my accessories put on the new ride from the old ride no charge. Works for me...I don't know how to fix anything and need the room in my garage for my fishing tackle lol Lindasledgirl PS only one brand didn't start and one brand blew up on my excursions this year. Neither were skidoo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
800steve 532 Report post Posted April 12, 2015 800Steve sorry I guess I misunderstood your statement. I do agree that 20,000 miles is too many on any sled, I was just glad to get back to the truck and finally complete a trip. I will surely ride a 4 stroke and the Yamaha on it's initial run was very nice. Glad to see you are having better luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snobeeler 229 Report post Posted April 12, 2015 Lindasledgirl PS only one brand didn't start and one brand blew up on my excursions this year. Neither were skidoo. Stop Bashing Polaris! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trailblazer 907 Report post Posted April 13, 2015 NO COMMENT ??? that's not like you ...... ha ha ha !!!Sitting at home with a blown Apex engine.....yup that's right a blown Apex engine, more on that later when I'm done with the rebuild. Stay tuned JG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smclelan 1,212 Report post Posted April 13, 2015 Holy!! I didn't think that happened. This is the first Apex engine coming apart I have heard of. Usually the body wears out around them before the engines fail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil 1 568 Report post Posted April 13, 2015 From here all except valve looks good, did it just eat a valve? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snobeeler 229 Report post Posted April 13, 2015 Sleemans, good choice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
