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16 hours ago, redsled22 said:
the border wont open to tourists till there is a vaccine .dont plan on riding here next winter .this season will be canadians only
And maybe if we don’t get this virus under control, Quebec won’t be open to Ontario folks either for sledding. As you must know, Quebec has just recently opened up it’s Ontario/ Quebec borders and lifted the regional road blocks Dispute having bigger infection numbers than your Provence. If things ballon out of control they will most likely shut them down again. I certainly hope for the sake of all of us on here we do get things under control in both the US and Canada to the point we are all free to enjoy our sport in Quebec next winter, but if we don’t and we get a second wave worse than the first, well don’t count on Quebec trails being open for anyone.
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Yes extremely tragic and troubling at any time but it seems so much worse in these trying times. RIP.
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11 hours ago, PLAYHARD said:
I hate to say it, but add 1,000 to the American's that have perished to date.
The phased re-opening plan decisions are localized in the US, not just state-by-state but county-by-county, where the testing & tracing & tracking "should" happen.
So applying that sort of science, won't different places along the border have different readiness, at different times, along with different re-closures based on flare-ups?
How would you monitor who comes from where and where they truly go once getting in to the country? Unless you mean opening limited to border town folk crossing to border towns in the other country. Here in Quebec we have several regions shut do to travel unless you live in the region full time due to low infection or no infection in some municipalities and limited medical infrastructure should a outbreak occur. Montreal has the highest count of infection in Quebec and folks from there can not come here to the Tremblant area, there are road blocks and check points to get through but we still get people sneaking through and there are high fines for those who get caught. It seems the honour system just doesn’t work for some. Until Quebec and I imagine all of Canada feels comfortable relaxing those limitations on it’s citizens, I don’t think limited border openings are on the table. Luckily at least for our sport we have some time on our side.
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32 minutes ago, Pipeman said:
It looks like Canada is doing a fantastic job and I hope the case trend continues to go down quickly for them and every other country. Just to put it in perspective though keep in mind California has more people living there than all of Canada does.
Yes we are blessed with a lower population, and I guess if one were to do an infection or death per million, those figures might show a different view of how we are doing. The real thing I wished to point out was given the numbers on the US side versus here in Canada, it would be fool hardy to open the flood gates so to speak until levels die down.
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From a Canadian point of view and as the state of this pandemic changes, I don’t see why rushing to opening the border to the general public is so important other than providing a false sense of normalcy. After all the commercial traffic is passing and has all through this. Most of the tourist attractions, festivals, Grand Prix, concerts, and the list goes on are cancelled in Canada and at the moment hotel and motels are closed. Further to this many parts of Quebec are off limits to people in other regions to limit the spread as some of the small communities have little to no cases. I live in one of those communities and can not travel far due to restrictions.
So, I have two questions for you guys since you are mostly Americans, what you all going to do up here if they open the borders up anytime soon? And looking at the covid 19 figures below of the US versus Canada would you be anxious if you we’re Canadian or a Canadian politician to open up too early?
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23 minutes ago, quebec bob said:
Opening the Canadian border to non essential travel will be a decision made in Canada, not the US, and I do not think money is the issue here, people dying is the issue, thousands are walking off the job at US meat plants for fear of contracting this virus, nobody makes money with out a work force, this thing is a big disaster and nothing is going anywhere until people are healthy and safe, that is what I want for my employees and I will not ask them to do anything outside of that, I am on the floor with them all day.
Money means nothing if it is at the cost of people getting sick and dying. Stay safe.
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13 hours ago, MrGutz said:
I heard that it was a land owner who wasn't consulted before they put the road in and it is too close to her house. She had time now to move the dirt into the road as she is Sheltering in Place. Unfortunately 155 is now a wet land sanctuary for some endangered salamander. A reroute will be completed later this summer at a cost to local businesses of ten million dollars.
GutZ
I think her cousin lives in Tremblant.
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1 hour ago, PLAYHARD said:
No free lunches. Funds have to come from taxpayers.
Glad the small businesses are being respected not just mega corps.
Guess we will come out the other side of this with the US promoting buy from and support US based business and Canada doing the same while trying to reduce the flow of money headed China’s way. Lots of talk about that on Face Book these days “buy Canadian” is the theme.
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11 minutes ago, NSHM said:
Hopefully the outfitters,lodges and relais that we stop at in the winter that also depend on summer tourism will be able to weather this storm. It could make getting rooms tough and carrying extra gas a must. Is the Canadian government stepping up to offer any monetary help to all the businesses?
As far as I know yes there will be compensation for all small businesses that have been forced to close or directly effected by the covid 19. At least that’s what Justin keeps saying.https://pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2020/03/27/prime-minister-announces-support-small-businesses-facing-impacts
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8 minutes ago, PLAYHARD said:
I'll bet I can get a psychiatrist's note that I am indeed a hardy fool and that summertime Spydering PQ is absolutely essential.
You may very well get the note but getting border guards or the SQ to understand you may be a bit harder, a reasonable translation of fool hardy is imbécile.😁😁😁😁😁😁
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Canadian officials have been talking just this morning about when they ease some restrictions there could more than likely be a second and third wave of infection so they have to carefully weigh this against getting the economy moving again too soon. Hind sight is 20/20 but can you imagine if it had been possible for all of Nord America to stop Any foreign travel from entering US, Canada and Mexico the moment we started hearing about the outbreak in China? Would have been a total mess at the time but given where we are now, I’m just saying if only we could have.
- quebec bob, PLAYHARD and MrGutz
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2 hours ago, quebec bob said:
When I got over the border just hours before it was shut down, hundreds and hundreds of Quebec traffic going home from the southern US, were lined up bringing it home with them. This whole thing is a mess.
Yes you are right, all the snow birds fleeing for home. IMO nothing was done to force them or anyone else getting off a plane to self quarantine other that handing them a paper and telling them they should. How many of them got home and just went out to the store to get groceries as they would normally after being away from home for quite awhile, probably 75% of them.
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Given the numbers in the US and the numbers in Canada, it is a pretty sure bet we are at an earlier stage of the viruses progress in Canada. It will be fool hardy to open the border to non essential public travel prematurely. My guess is December 20th. 2020, but that is also based on my own optimism sooo, don’t buy your passes just yet.
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That high amount for the plate does make for lower private insurance costs ( fire, theft, collision, road side assistance) I pay $252 for that. My bike is a 1600 cc cruiser. When I add what I pay for the plate and the private insurance, it is similar to what some of my buddies are paying to private insurance companies in Ontario where they don’t have the mandatory government run insurance built into their lisense plate cost. The cost for a bike is excessive compared to a car but they justify it by saying a person in a motorcycle accident is more likely to be a bigger drain on the medical system in terms of cost than a person in a car accident. Like anything else you don’t pay, you don’t play I guess.
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1 hour ago, iceman said:
Right now
no ATV or SXS rides all trails closed. On your own land is ok. Fines start at $1000 dollars and with the fees comes to about $1500 for the first offense. It’s considered non essential movement. Same goes for motorcycles. You can use it to go to work if you are in one of the essential listed jobs, go to grocery store, pharmacy or doctors appointments. Otherwise it same deal $1000 plus fees first offense.
No car rides either, only for the same destinations above. Cannot just go take a ride around.
Yeah I don’t go anywhere except a trip to the grocery store every couple of weeks. Living in cottage country and on a popular motorcycle road, I started to see quite a few motorcycles coming up to ride the last 2 weeks or so, but I was reluctant to get mine out as one: I didn’t feel much like riding even just to the store and two: I didn’t want to be seen by people in my area as just another rider who wasn’t taking this seriously. Now Quebec has shut down our area to outsiders and have road blocks in place, so definitely not getting the bike out, but they were kind enough to send me my $600+ license plate renewal the other day. Oh well, I have plenty of jobs around home to keep me busy for quite awhile.
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18 minutes ago, doubler said:
Not jumping in this thread to fight, I just find whenever I fact check that it is my responsibility to respond with findings. First, you said "sole" but article says "much of the Pulp used to make N95 masks in the US comes from Canada, BC in particular". Second, check out this article: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-vancouver-island-pulp-mill-supplies-materials-for-medical-protective/
specifically: "The B.C. facility does not supply 3M or any other company with materials used to make N95 respirator masks...."
Thanks for the update and as per information the news is reporting up here Today, 3m has worked out a deal that allows them to export the masks and ramp up production to try and satisfy the US needs. I think it is important to remember that the world is intertwined globally with trading of resources, raw materials and finished products and this pandemic is a global problem and will only be solved by country’s sharing their expertise and resources to eradicate it. Together we stand stronger.
Who is purchasing a new ride for next year?
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Due to the current situation, I might be going to a more basic sled this coming season.