snowmaster2112 Posted February 11, 2020 Report Posted February 11, 2020 By deductive reasoning it is my belief two buddies I’m riding with got bad gas at Repos two days ago. So did another guy we met on the trail and all 3 sleds have same symptoms Just a BIG FYI to everyone dooright and mccaffrey 2 Quote
dooright Posted February 11, 2020 Report Posted February 11, 2020 That's a bummer ! Options are limited out there . Repo sells lots of fuel .. The guy that pumps the gas says the truck comes every few days to fill there tank PLAYHARD 1 Quote
snowmaster2112 Posted February 11, 2020 Author Report Posted February 11, 2020 I know never had a problem there. Guess it could happen anywhere at anytime especially with these tanks out in the bush dooright 1 Quote
Snobeeler Posted February 11, 2020 Report Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) probably because of the abnormal temperature swings this season causing condensation in their tank. Edited February 11, 2020 by Snobeeler Quote
Blueblood Posted February 11, 2020 Report Posted February 11, 2020 I am with the third sled that is acting up. Ended up pulling it into lac Falion and the owner put it in his truck and drove it and the guy to sennetere. Owner helped us alot thank you. Dealer opens at 8:30. Plan is to drain gas replace both filters and hope for the best. This was the only sled in our group out of 12. PLAYHARD 1 Quote
snowmaster2112 Posted February 11, 2020 Author Report Posted February 11, 2020 See you at 8:30 at the dealer Gero Motoneige in St Jean de Matha couldn’t get an oil change done right and I’m weeping oil at the rate of 1 quart per 300 miles out and making a fuc$@ing mess everywhere. it is coming out (weeping) around the drain plug and yes I checked that it’s tight. I know from doing many 1200 oil changes myself (NEVER) a problem that torque is something like 42 ft lbs hopefully a quick fix then the three of us are blasting to Chapais Quote
jak Posted February 11, 2020 Report Posted February 11, 2020 Just curious are these 4-strokes or 2-strokes? I got into some bad gas last year with my 2-stroke and had all kinds of problems where my buddy with 4-stroke (same gas) zero problem. Quote
quebec bob Posted February 11, 2020 Report Posted February 11, 2020 This is a good thing to know, but also surprising as they sell a lot of gas there and it pumps from the bottom of the tank, I am sure they will get this fixed fast, that is a very strategic fuel stop, almost impossible to leave there without getting fuel...you have to wonder if it is water or the inside of the tank is deteriorating being an above ground tank I can't see water leaking in...unless somehow they got delivered a bad load. Quote
vt_bluyamaha54 Posted February 11, 2020 Report Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, jak said: Just curious are these 4-strokes or 2-strokes? I got into some bad gas last year with my 2-stroke and had all kinds of problems where my buddy with 4-stroke (same gas) zero problem. Two strokes will always be affected more by bad fuel due to the destructive effect of combustion detonation caused by the water. 57 minutes ago, quebec bob said: This is a good thing to know, but also surprising as they sell a lot of gas there and it pumps from the bottom of the tank, I am sure they will get this fixed fast, that is a very strategic fuel stop, almost impossible to leave there without getting fuel...you have to wonder if it is water or the inside of the tank is deteriorating being an above ground tank I can't see water leaking in...unless somehow they got delivered a bad load. Might just be timing - those that got fuel soon after a delivery got a lot of water and/or dirt stirred up by the force of the delivery nozzle. Water will always be in the bottom of a fuel tank and without a way to drain it off will always become a problem most noticeable after a delivery or when the pickup is at the bottom of the tank. Florida Snowman and quebec bob 2 Quote
Blueblood Posted February 12, 2020 Report Posted February 12, 2020 All four stroke sleds all ski doos. Not picking on a brand. Two 1200's one 900 turbo. 900 turbo is still down was a rental one full day at dealer and resolution to the problem. Btw renters of snowmobiles if your more than 100 km away from the place you rented from your on your own and hope you get a good dealer. Quote
Cobra Posted February 12, 2020 Report Posted February 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, Blueblood said: All four stroke sleds all ski doos. Not picking on a brand. Two 1200's one 900 turbo. 900 turbo is still down was a rental one full day at dealer and resolution to the problem. Btw renters of snowmobiles if your more than 100 km away from the place you rented from your on your own and hope you get a good dealer. How did Chris make out with his sled? Oil leak fixed? Quote
Blueblood Posted February 12, 2020 Report Posted February 12, 2020 Something actually got messed up with the oil pan. Dealer who did oil change messed it up. Think he was on trail around 10:30? Not sure if it's a permanent fix our not. Quote
Cobra Posted February 12, 2020 Report Posted February 12, 2020 37 minutes ago, Blueblood said: Something actually got messed up with the oil pan. Dealer who did oil change messed it up. Think he was on trail around 10:30? Not sure if it's a permanent fix our not. Only on a snowmobile trip!!!!!! Hope everything works out for you guys.Didn’t expect that situation out of Gero, and furthermore junk fuel out of Repo. Quote
snowmaster2112 Posted February 12, 2020 Author Report Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) Ok...... At Chapais tonight.... first off fuel at Repos.....all I know is my two buddies started acting up with exact same symptoms within 50 miles of leaving there. They filled up there and I only threw in 20 bucks. Two days later (and many refills) they seem to be back to normal. Bluebloods”s group with the acting up 900 Turbo rental was the 3rd suspect from Repos gas. When we left the dealer this morning they supposedly said it was a bad coil and taking on off a new sled to fix. But when I saw them very briefly in Desmairsville they said that the dealer said that coil was bad too. I call bullshit on that matter but what do I know. Weather or not there was at least a shot of bad gas that came out of Repos (and I still firmly believe there was) one will actually never know. I know it could happen anywhere at anytime and this year is bad with temperature swings and above ground tanks. My oil leak is another conundrum. After further thinking and spending time in the shop with the mechanic on my problem I now believe that Gero wasn’t the cause of the problem. I changed the oil and chain case service at 500 miles. I remember having trouble with my torque wrench setting and possibly over tightened it. I backed it off and reset it at spec. No trouble for 4000 miles. When the mechanic (40 years there at AB Sports) looked and “scoped” everything you could see a small section where the crush ring sits that was worn/broken away. Case was NOT cracked. We wound up making a thicker aluminum washer to fill the small void and I’m back in business. After rethinking the whole thing the guy at Gero problably did his job right and when he dropped the plug the little piece that was crushed around the circumstance fell out and left a small void. Trail from Senneterre to Chapais today was like a bowling alley the whole way. Saw two groomers pass us and two sleds the whole way. Edited February 12, 2020 by snowmaster2112 PLAYHARD, Cobra, zeusand and 1 other 4 Quote
Blueblood Posted February 12, 2020 Report Posted February 12, 2020 Snowmaster glad you are running with no problems. Were trying to get another sled brought to us today. Ended up staying at auberge Tiblemont right on 83. Quote
Muskoka2 Posted February 12, 2020 Report Posted February 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, Blueblood said: Snowmaster glad you are running with no problems. Were trying to get another sled brought to us today. Ended up staying at auberge Tiblemont right on 83. Great owner there-Bobby St. Pierre! Quote
Snobeeler Posted February 12, 2020 Report Posted February 12, 2020 10 hours ago, snowmaster2112 said: My oil leak is another conundrum. After further thinking and spending time in the shop with the mechanic on my problem I now believe that Gero wasn’t the cause of the problem. Chris, you are a honest man. Thumbs up to you. PLAYHARD 1 Quote
snowmaster2112 Posted February 12, 2020 Author Report Posted February 12, 2020 We are McDonalds in Chibougamau right now. Wind and snow picking up hard. Going to blast to Sciere 54 and into St Felicien for the night...God willing. Quote
snowmaster2112 Posted February 12, 2020 Author Report Posted February 12, 2020 Just showed my buddies the place outside of Chibougamau that I visited back in December and this is the “thanks” I get from them up at the top.......ZOOM IN MrGutz, towing, PLAYHARD and 2 others 1 4 Quote
Florida Snowman Posted February 12, 2020 Report Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, snowmaster2112 said: this is the “thanks” I get from them up at the top. That’s what friends are for Chris! Quote
snowmaster2112 Posted February 12, 2020 Author Report Posted February 12, 2020 Introducing my American friends yesterday to my Native friends in Miquelon PLAYHARD 1 Quote
snowmaster2112 Posted February 12, 2020 Author Report Posted February 12, 2020 And jackass me last night at hotel.... i bought this sandwich at the grocery store in Chapais for 5.67 Heated half of it up in the oven in our apartment room last night and it was fu%#cimg YUMMY. Got the other half all wrapped in tin foil and pulling the BRP 1200 muffler trick with it when we get to Sciere 54 MrGutz, towing, zeusand and 4 others 1 1 5 Quote
Muskoka2 Posted February 12, 2020 Report Posted February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, snowmaster2112 said: And jackass me last night at hotel.... i bought this sandwich at the grocery store in Chapais for 5.67 Heated half of it up in the oven in our apartment room last night and it was fu%#cimg YUMMY. Got the other half all wrapped in tin foil and pulling the BRP 1200 muffler trick with it when we get to Sciere 54 The good ole Muff Pot! Blueblood 1 Quote
snowmaster2112 Posted February 14, 2020 Author Report Posted February 14, 2020 I’m sure “somebody, sometime, on some machine” had an actual better clocked time than me......... but for this afternoon/evening I hold the land speed record between Wemo and Haltaparache. it was a physical and mental workout. right before dark at Haltaparache here in Parent very chilly tonight dooright and zeusand 2 Quote
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