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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from PLAYHARD in Pictures from the Week 2/13/23 through 2/17/23   
    Fished the week at 764...  It was awsome... smooth sailing...
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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from PLAYHARD in Pictures from the Week 2/13/23 through 2/17/23   
    When we got home.. all the snow was gone... but we brought some back with us 🙂
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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from PLAYHARD in Pictures from the Week 2/13/23 through 2/17/23   
    http://quebecrider.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2023_02/image.png.3031509450b5052f3de1ed469c7d3297.png
    Might be the best picture of the entire trip
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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from Florida Snowman in Pictures from the Week 2/13/23 through 2/17/23   
    http://quebecrider.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2023_02/image.png.d30200bc5f166265b6230ecb0cd24ece.png
    We started taking pictures as we crossed the St Lawrence.  
    http://quebecrider.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2023_02/image.png.3a38978b67a5c448fec8dc34ba84d16c.png
     
    Monday first day of riding
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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from PLAYHARD in Pictures from the Week 2/13/23 through 2/17/23   
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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from nyskidooerinnewhampshire in Pictures from the Week 2/13/23 through 2/17/23   
    http://quebecrider.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2023_02/image.png.3031509450b5052f3de1ed469c7d3297.png
    Might be the best picture of the entire trip
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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from PLAYHARD in Pictures from the Week 2/13/23 through 2/17/23   
    Wed night/Thurs Morning it rained lightly and by 9:00 the Temp was back down to 20.   
    Have ice scratches  ....Thin in this area but still flat... 
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    Not sure how long this Bridge has been here..   Years ago... many many years ago... it was either cross the ice.. or take the highway brigde...   Last time I came through... we went across the ice... 
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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from PLAYHARD in Pictures from the Week 2/13/23 through 2/17/23   
    White birch forest
     
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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from PLAYHARD in Pictures from the Week 2/13/23 through 2/17/23   
    Firday it snowed... we ended up riding out of it and into the sun
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    It is snowing off in the distance
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    The new bridge... 
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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from PLAYHARD in Pictures from the Week 2/13/23 through 2/17/23   
    Yes  it really is this straight at times.... 
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    Despite it being 2023,  my sled still thinks it is 2006.  I had the oldest sled in the Parking Lot at OTIS...but I think it still looks cool.
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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from SnomoGary in Pictures from the Week 2/13/23 through 2/17/23   
    When we got home.. all the snow was gone... but we brought some back with us 🙂
    http://quebecrider.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2023_02/image.png.351eab86c3f82fa18bf33385897cf50d.png

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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from MrGutz in Pictures from the Week 2/13/23 through 2/17/23   
    When we got home.. all the snow was gone... but we brought some back with us 🙂
    http://quebecrider.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2023_02/image.png.351eab86c3f82fa18bf33385897cf50d.png

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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from mikerider in Pictures from the Week 2/13/23 through 2/17/23   
    Yes  it really is this straight at times.... 
    http://quebecrider.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2023_02/image.png.010fa4bace86a7d7de9a281d873b9729.png
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    http://quebecrider.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2023_02/image.png.f92603889989ac2181c9d3b6c48f57bc.png
    Despite it being 2023,  my sled still thinks it is 2006.  I had the oldest sled in the Parking Lot at OTIS...but I think it still looks cool.
    http://quebecrider.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2023_02/image.png.29f3858ca84311aa7deac8302a451907.png
     





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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from doo4adoo in Pictures from the Week 2/13/23 through 2/17/23   
    When we got home.. all the snow was gone... but we brought some back with us 🙂
    http://quebecrider.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2023_02/image.png.351eab86c3f82fa18bf33385897cf50d.png

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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from MrsGTRider in Pictures from the Week 2/13/23 through 2/17/23   
    Yes  it really is this straight at times.... 
    http://quebecrider.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2023_02/image.png.010fa4bace86a7d7de9a281d873b9729.png
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    http://quebecrider.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2023_02/image.png.f92603889989ac2181c9d3b6c48f57bc.png
    Despite it being 2023,  my sled still thinks it is 2006.  I had the oldest sled in the Parking Lot at OTIS...but I think it still looks cool.
    http://quebecrider.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2023_02/image.png.29f3858ca84311aa7deac8302a451907.png
     





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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from SnomoGary in Pictures from the Week 2/13/23 through 2/17/23   
    http://quebecrider.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2023_02/image.png.3031509450b5052f3de1ed469c7d3297.png
    Might be the best picture of the entire trip
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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from SnomoGary in Pictures from the Week 2/13/23 through 2/17/23   
    http://quebecrider.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2023_02/image.png.d30200bc5f166265b6230ecb0cd24ece.png
    We started taking pictures as we crossed the St Lawrence.  
    http://quebecrider.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2023_02/image.png.3a38978b67a5c448fec8dc34ba84d16c.png
     
    Monday first day of riding
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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from MrGutz in Pictures from the Week 2/13/23 through 2/17/23   
    http://quebecrider.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2023_02/image.png.d30200bc5f166265b6230ecb0cd24ece.png
    We started taking pictures as we crossed the St Lawrence.  
    http://quebecrider.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2023_02/image.png.3a38978b67a5c448fec8dc34ba84d16c.png
     
    Monday first day of riding
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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from MrGutz in Pictures from the Week 2/13/23 through 2/17/23   
    http://quebecrider.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2023_02/image.png.3031509450b5052f3de1ed469c7d3297.png
    Might be the best picture of the entire trip
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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from PLAYHARD in Zec Martin Valin   
    This is unfortunate.  I feel the Zez is operating outside the spirit its creators intended. 
    Below I read through section 3
    and then section 19.
    What is interesting about section 19  is the exception about paying.
    When reviewing these sections,  you may very well need to register but.. if you are traveling to a Private property solely to reach and come back from there then you shouldn't be subjected to the the fee.
    Example:  A persons enters the Zez solely to reach K31 or Chapel and then come back from there.
    The law clearly states "(2.1)  a person who travels in a ZEC solely to reach a principal residence or private property and come back from there, if there is no other practicable road possible;"   
     
    On another note, it will be interesting to see how the Minister deals with this.
    The Club/Federation has been granted a "right of way" for the establishment of the trail If you are operating within the "right of way"   (on the groomed maintained trail),  you shouldn't be subjected to any additional fee's other than what is required by law to operate in said "Right of way".   The Trail pass grants Legal access for use of the trails within the right of way.  
    The Zec indeed has its own rules, but those rules may very well only apply passage outside the easment/right off way the Club/federation has aquired. 
     
    It would be interesting to read the language used in the agreement between the Zec and the club.. 
     
     
     
     
    https://www.legisquebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/document/cr/C-61.1, r. 78 /
    DIVISION II
    REGISTRATION AND ASSIGNMENT
    3. An agency may, by by-law, determine the cases where a person who, for recreational purposes, enters or stays in a ZEC under its management or engages in any other activity therein, shall be required to register.
    Such person must comply with the following registration procedure:
    (1)  identify himself or herself with the person’s name and address, an identification number and, where applicable, the number of the person’s hunting or fishing licence;
    (2)  specify a date and a single location or, as the case may be, a single sector in which the person will be hunting or fishing, for each day of hunting or fishing;
    (3)  specify a date and a location or, as the case may be, a sector where the person will carry on a recreational activity that is part of a recreational activity development plan, for each day the activity will be carried on;
    (4)  place proof of registration on the dashboard of the person’s vehicle so that it may be read from the outside or carry and produce it upon request from a wildlife protection officer, a wildlife protection assistant or an area warden; the duly completed registration is to be deposited at the reception centre on leaving the controlled zone; and
    (5)  pay the fees payable.
    Subject to the fourth paragraph, a person may have the choice of location or sector for hunting, fishing or a recreational activity referred to in subparagraph 3 of the second paragraph modified by a registration officer by paying the difference if the person requests to be transferred to a location or sector for which the fees are higher. If there are no additional fees to be paid, the person may also have it done by a wildlife protection officer, a wildlife protection assistant or an area warden if they are able to immediately notify the registration officer. This paragraph does not apply to a person who hunts in a limited access sector.
    If places are available and subject to the payment of fees, a person may also have a registration officer modify the choice of fishing location or sector in the following cases:
    (1)  to replace a non-limited access sector by a limited access sector or a body of water referred to in section 17.1;
    (2)  to replace a limited access sector or such a body of water by another limited access sector or another such body of water; and
    (3)  to replace a limited access sector or such a body of water by a non-limited access sector.
    O.C. 1255-99, s. 3; O.C. 485-2004, s. 2; O.C. 64-2012, s. 2; O.C. 751-2014, s. 2; S.Q. 2021, c. 24, s. 118.
     
    Section 19.
     
    19. No person may use a vehicle to travel in a ZEC unless he has paid the travel fees set by by-law of the agency, which shall not exceed, subject to section 22,
    (1)  (a)  $11.70 if the person is travelling alone, whether or not the person is bringing in additional vehicles;
    (b)  $11.70 for all persons, if the person is travelling with other persons but is not bringing in additional vehicles;
    (c)  $11.70 per person, if the person is travelling with other persons and bringing in additional vehicles or, where applicable, $11.70 per vehicle, if the number of vehicles including the main vehicle is less than the number of persons travelling; and
    (2)  when entering or leaving the ZEC between 10:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m. from 16 April to 14 September, or between 9:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. from 15 September to 15 April, an additional amount of $4.68 may be charged to the driver of the main vehicle.
    The first paragraph does not apply to
    (1)  a person travelling in a ZEC in the performance of his duties;
    (2)  a person who travels in a ZEC solely to reach a private property located in the territory of the ZEC but not forming part of the ZEC;
    (2.1)  a person who travels in a ZEC solely to reach a principal residence or private property and come back from there, if there is no other practicable road possible;
    (3)  a person whose travel fees have been paid, in accordance with section 106.2 of the Act respecting the conservation and development of wildlife (chapter C-61.1), by an outfitter, an agency or a recreational association;
    (4)  a person who just travels through a ZEC, and for whom the corresponding travel fees are paid to the agency by another person, an association or a group;
    (5)  a person who travels in a ZEC to reach lands in the domain of the State on which exclusive trapping rights only are granted, in a wildlife reserve, in another controlled zone or to reach a beaver reserve for the purpose of carrying out activities related to trapping, and to come back from there; and
    (6)  a lessee of exclusive trapping rights, a professional trapping licence holder or a person referred to in sections 5 to 7 of the Regulation respecting trapping activities and the fur trade (chapter C-61.1, r. 3) authorized by the lessee to trap, who travels in a ZEC for the purpose of carrying out activities related to trapping.
    O.C. 1255-99, s. 19; O.C. 1093-2002, s. 3; O.C. 485-2004, s. 8; O.C. 450-2008, s. 1; O.C. 382-2010, s. 2; O.C. 64-2012, s. 5.
     
    https://www.legisquebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/document/cs/V-1.3?&target=
     
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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from nyskidooerinnewhampshire in Zec Martin Valin   
    This is unfortunate.  I feel the Zez is operating outside the spirit its creators intended. 
    Below I read through section 3
    and then section 19.
    What is interesting about section 19  is the exception about paying.
    When reviewing these sections,  you may very well need to register but.. if you are traveling to a Private property solely to reach and come back from there then you shouldn't be subjected to the the fee.
    Example:  A persons enters the Zez solely to reach K31 or Chapel and then come back from there.
    The law clearly states "(2.1)  a person who travels in a ZEC solely to reach a principal residence or private property and come back from there, if there is no other practicable road possible;"   
     
    On another note, it will be interesting to see how the Minister deals with this.
    The Club/Federation has been granted a "right of way" for the establishment of the trail If you are operating within the "right of way"   (on the groomed maintained trail),  you shouldn't be subjected to any additional fee's other than what is required by law to operate in said "Right of way".   The Trail pass grants Legal access for use of the trails within the right of way.  
    The Zec indeed has its own rules, but those rules may very well only apply passage outside the easment/right off way the Club/federation has aquired. 
     
    It would be interesting to read the language used in the agreement between the Zec and the club.. 
     
     
     
     
    https://www.legisquebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/document/cr/C-61.1, r. 78 /
    DIVISION II
    REGISTRATION AND ASSIGNMENT
    3. An agency may, by by-law, determine the cases where a person who, for recreational purposes, enters or stays in a ZEC under its management or engages in any other activity therein, shall be required to register.
    Such person must comply with the following registration procedure:
    (1)  identify himself or herself with the person’s name and address, an identification number and, where applicable, the number of the person’s hunting or fishing licence;
    (2)  specify a date and a single location or, as the case may be, a single sector in which the person will be hunting or fishing, for each day of hunting or fishing;
    (3)  specify a date and a location or, as the case may be, a sector where the person will carry on a recreational activity that is part of a recreational activity development plan, for each day the activity will be carried on;
    (4)  place proof of registration on the dashboard of the person’s vehicle so that it may be read from the outside or carry and produce it upon request from a wildlife protection officer, a wildlife protection assistant or an area warden; the duly completed registration is to be deposited at the reception centre on leaving the controlled zone; and
    (5)  pay the fees payable.
    Subject to the fourth paragraph, a person may have the choice of location or sector for hunting, fishing or a recreational activity referred to in subparagraph 3 of the second paragraph modified by a registration officer by paying the difference if the person requests to be transferred to a location or sector for which the fees are higher. If there are no additional fees to be paid, the person may also have it done by a wildlife protection officer, a wildlife protection assistant or an area warden if they are able to immediately notify the registration officer. This paragraph does not apply to a person who hunts in a limited access sector.
    If places are available and subject to the payment of fees, a person may also have a registration officer modify the choice of fishing location or sector in the following cases:
    (1)  to replace a non-limited access sector by a limited access sector or a body of water referred to in section 17.1;
    (2)  to replace a limited access sector or such a body of water by another limited access sector or another such body of water; and
    (3)  to replace a limited access sector or such a body of water by a non-limited access sector.
    O.C. 1255-99, s. 3; O.C. 485-2004, s. 2; O.C. 64-2012, s. 2; O.C. 751-2014, s. 2; S.Q. 2021, c. 24, s. 118.
     
    Section 19.
     
    19. No person may use a vehicle to travel in a ZEC unless he has paid the travel fees set by by-law of the agency, which shall not exceed, subject to section 22,
    (1)  (a)  $11.70 if the person is travelling alone, whether or not the person is bringing in additional vehicles;
    (b)  $11.70 for all persons, if the person is travelling with other persons but is not bringing in additional vehicles;
    (c)  $11.70 per person, if the person is travelling with other persons and bringing in additional vehicles or, where applicable, $11.70 per vehicle, if the number of vehicles including the main vehicle is less than the number of persons travelling; and
    (2)  when entering or leaving the ZEC between 10:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m. from 16 April to 14 September, or between 9:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. from 15 September to 15 April, an additional amount of $4.68 may be charged to the driver of the main vehicle.
    The first paragraph does not apply to
    (1)  a person travelling in a ZEC in the performance of his duties;
    (2)  a person who travels in a ZEC solely to reach a private property located in the territory of the ZEC but not forming part of the ZEC;
    (2.1)  a person who travels in a ZEC solely to reach a principal residence or private property and come back from there, if there is no other practicable road possible;
    (3)  a person whose travel fees have been paid, in accordance with section 106.2 of the Act respecting the conservation and development of wildlife (chapter C-61.1), by an outfitter, an agency or a recreational association;
    (4)  a person who just travels through a ZEC, and for whom the corresponding travel fees are paid to the agency by another person, an association or a group;
    (5)  a person who travels in a ZEC to reach lands in the domain of the State on which exclusive trapping rights only are granted, in a wildlife reserve, in another controlled zone or to reach a beaver reserve for the purpose of carrying out activities related to trapping, and to come back from there; and
    (6)  a lessee of exclusive trapping rights, a professional trapping licence holder or a person referred to in sections 5 to 7 of the Regulation respecting trapping activities and the fur trade (chapter C-61.1, r. 3) authorized by the lessee to trap, who travels in a ZEC for the purpose of carrying out activities related to trapping.
    O.C. 1255-99, s. 19; O.C. 1093-2002, s. 3; O.C. 485-2004, s. 8; O.C. 450-2008, s. 1; O.C. 382-2010, s. 2; O.C. 64-2012, s. 5.
     
    https://www.legisquebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/document/cs/V-1.3?&target=
     
  22. Like
    NHsrx701 got a reaction from zeusand in Zec Martin Valin   
    This is unfortunate.  I feel the Zez is operating outside the spirit its creators intended. 
    Below I read through section 3
    and then section 19.
    What is interesting about section 19  is the exception about paying.
    When reviewing these sections,  you may very well need to register but.. if you are traveling to a Private property solely to reach and come back from there then you shouldn't be subjected to the the fee.
    Example:  A persons enters the Zez solely to reach K31 or Chapel and then come back from there.
    The law clearly states "(2.1)  a person who travels in a ZEC solely to reach a principal residence or private property and come back from there, if there is no other practicable road possible;"   
     
    On another note, it will be interesting to see how the Minister deals with this.
    The Club/Federation has been granted a "right of way" for the establishment of the trail If you are operating within the "right of way"   (on the groomed maintained trail),  you shouldn't be subjected to any additional fee's other than what is required by law to operate in said "Right of way".   The Trail pass grants Legal access for use of the trails within the right of way.  
    The Zec indeed has its own rules, but those rules may very well only apply passage outside the easment/right off way the Club/federation has aquired. 
     
    It would be interesting to read the language used in the agreement between the Zec and the club.. 
     
     
     
     
    https://www.legisquebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/document/cr/C-61.1, r. 78 /
    DIVISION II
    REGISTRATION AND ASSIGNMENT
    3. An agency may, by by-law, determine the cases where a person who, for recreational purposes, enters or stays in a ZEC under its management or engages in any other activity therein, shall be required to register.
    Such person must comply with the following registration procedure:
    (1)  identify himself or herself with the person’s name and address, an identification number and, where applicable, the number of the person’s hunting or fishing licence;
    (2)  specify a date and a single location or, as the case may be, a single sector in which the person will be hunting or fishing, for each day of hunting or fishing;
    (3)  specify a date and a location or, as the case may be, a sector where the person will carry on a recreational activity that is part of a recreational activity development plan, for each day the activity will be carried on;
    (4)  place proof of registration on the dashboard of the person’s vehicle so that it may be read from the outside or carry and produce it upon request from a wildlife protection officer, a wildlife protection assistant or an area warden; the duly completed registration is to be deposited at the reception centre on leaving the controlled zone; and
    (5)  pay the fees payable.
    Subject to the fourth paragraph, a person may have the choice of location or sector for hunting, fishing or a recreational activity referred to in subparagraph 3 of the second paragraph modified by a registration officer by paying the difference if the person requests to be transferred to a location or sector for which the fees are higher. If there are no additional fees to be paid, the person may also have it done by a wildlife protection officer, a wildlife protection assistant or an area warden if they are able to immediately notify the registration officer. This paragraph does not apply to a person who hunts in a limited access sector.
    If places are available and subject to the payment of fees, a person may also have a registration officer modify the choice of fishing location or sector in the following cases:
    (1)  to replace a non-limited access sector by a limited access sector or a body of water referred to in section 17.1;
    (2)  to replace a limited access sector or such a body of water by another limited access sector or another such body of water; and
    (3)  to replace a limited access sector or such a body of water by a non-limited access sector.
    O.C. 1255-99, s. 3; O.C. 485-2004, s. 2; O.C. 64-2012, s. 2; O.C. 751-2014, s. 2; S.Q. 2021, c. 24, s. 118.
     
    Section 19.
     
    19. No person may use a vehicle to travel in a ZEC unless he has paid the travel fees set by by-law of the agency, which shall not exceed, subject to section 22,
    (1)  (a)  $11.70 if the person is travelling alone, whether or not the person is bringing in additional vehicles;
    (b)  $11.70 for all persons, if the person is travelling with other persons but is not bringing in additional vehicles;
    (c)  $11.70 per person, if the person is travelling with other persons and bringing in additional vehicles or, where applicable, $11.70 per vehicle, if the number of vehicles including the main vehicle is less than the number of persons travelling; and
    (2)  when entering or leaving the ZEC between 10:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m. from 16 April to 14 September, or between 9:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. from 15 September to 15 April, an additional amount of $4.68 may be charged to the driver of the main vehicle.
    The first paragraph does not apply to
    (1)  a person travelling in a ZEC in the performance of his duties;
    (2)  a person who travels in a ZEC solely to reach a private property located in the territory of the ZEC but not forming part of the ZEC;
    (2.1)  a person who travels in a ZEC solely to reach a principal residence or private property and come back from there, if there is no other practicable road possible;
    (3)  a person whose travel fees have been paid, in accordance with section 106.2 of the Act respecting the conservation and development of wildlife (chapter C-61.1), by an outfitter, an agency or a recreational association;
    (4)  a person who just travels through a ZEC, and for whom the corresponding travel fees are paid to the agency by another person, an association or a group;
    (5)  a person who travels in a ZEC to reach lands in the domain of the State on which exclusive trapping rights only are granted, in a wildlife reserve, in another controlled zone or to reach a beaver reserve for the purpose of carrying out activities related to trapping, and to come back from there; and
    (6)  a lessee of exclusive trapping rights, a professional trapping licence holder or a person referred to in sections 5 to 7 of the Regulation respecting trapping activities and the fur trade (chapter C-61.1, r. 3) authorized by the lessee to trap, who travels in a ZEC for the purpose of carrying out activities related to trapping.
    O.C. 1255-99, s. 19; O.C. 1093-2002, s. 3; O.C. 485-2004, s. 8; O.C. 450-2008, s. 1; O.C. 382-2010, s. 2; O.C. 64-2012, s. 5.
     
    https://www.legisquebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/document/cs/V-1.3?&target=
     
  23. Like
    NHsrx701 got a reaction from NSHM in Zec Martin Valin   
    This is unfortunate.  I feel the Zez is operating outside the spirit its creators intended. 
    Below I read through section 3
    and then section 19.
    What is interesting about section 19  is the exception about paying.
    When reviewing these sections,  you may very well need to register but.. if you are traveling to a Private property solely to reach and come back from there then you shouldn't be subjected to the the fee.
    Example:  A persons enters the Zez solely to reach K31 or Chapel and then come back from there.
    The law clearly states "(2.1)  a person who travels in a ZEC solely to reach a principal residence or private property and come back from there, if there is no other practicable road possible;"   
     
    On another note, it will be interesting to see how the Minister deals with this.
    The Club/Federation has been granted a "right of way" for the establishment of the trail If you are operating within the "right of way"   (on the groomed maintained trail),  you shouldn't be subjected to any additional fee's other than what is required by law to operate in said "Right of way".   The Trail pass grants Legal access for use of the trails within the right of way.  
    The Zec indeed has its own rules, but those rules may very well only apply passage outside the easment/right off way the Club/federation has aquired. 
     
    It would be interesting to read the language used in the agreement between the Zec and the club.. 
     
     
     
     
    https://www.legisquebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/document/cr/C-61.1, r. 78 /
    DIVISION II
    REGISTRATION AND ASSIGNMENT
    3. An agency may, by by-law, determine the cases where a person who, for recreational purposes, enters or stays in a ZEC under its management or engages in any other activity therein, shall be required to register.
    Such person must comply with the following registration procedure:
    (1)  identify himself or herself with the person’s name and address, an identification number and, where applicable, the number of the person’s hunting or fishing licence;
    (2)  specify a date and a single location or, as the case may be, a single sector in which the person will be hunting or fishing, for each day of hunting or fishing;
    (3)  specify a date and a location or, as the case may be, a sector where the person will carry on a recreational activity that is part of a recreational activity development plan, for each day the activity will be carried on;
    (4)  place proof of registration on the dashboard of the person’s vehicle so that it may be read from the outside or carry and produce it upon request from a wildlife protection officer, a wildlife protection assistant or an area warden; the duly completed registration is to be deposited at the reception centre on leaving the controlled zone; and
    (5)  pay the fees payable.
    Subject to the fourth paragraph, a person may have the choice of location or sector for hunting, fishing or a recreational activity referred to in subparagraph 3 of the second paragraph modified by a registration officer by paying the difference if the person requests to be transferred to a location or sector for which the fees are higher. If there are no additional fees to be paid, the person may also have it done by a wildlife protection officer, a wildlife protection assistant or an area warden if they are able to immediately notify the registration officer. This paragraph does not apply to a person who hunts in a limited access sector.
    If places are available and subject to the payment of fees, a person may also have a registration officer modify the choice of fishing location or sector in the following cases:
    (1)  to replace a non-limited access sector by a limited access sector or a body of water referred to in section 17.1;
    (2)  to replace a limited access sector or such a body of water by another limited access sector or another such body of water; and
    (3)  to replace a limited access sector or such a body of water by a non-limited access sector.
    O.C. 1255-99, s. 3; O.C. 485-2004, s. 2; O.C. 64-2012, s. 2; O.C. 751-2014, s. 2; S.Q. 2021, c. 24, s. 118.
     
    Section 19.
     
    19. No person may use a vehicle to travel in a ZEC unless he has paid the travel fees set by by-law of the agency, which shall not exceed, subject to section 22,
    (1)  (a)  $11.70 if the person is travelling alone, whether or not the person is bringing in additional vehicles;
    (b)  $11.70 for all persons, if the person is travelling with other persons but is not bringing in additional vehicles;
    (c)  $11.70 per person, if the person is travelling with other persons and bringing in additional vehicles or, where applicable, $11.70 per vehicle, if the number of vehicles including the main vehicle is less than the number of persons travelling; and
    (2)  when entering or leaving the ZEC between 10:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m. from 16 April to 14 September, or between 9:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. from 15 September to 15 April, an additional amount of $4.68 may be charged to the driver of the main vehicle.
    The first paragraph does not apply to
    (1)  a person travelling in a ZEC in the performance of his duties;
    (2)  a person who travels in a ZEC solely to reach a private property located in the territory of the ZEC but not forming part of the ZEC;
    (2.1)  a person who travels in a ZEC solely to reach a principal residence or private property and come back from there, if there is no other practicable road possible;
    (3)  a person whose travel fees have been paid, in accordance with section 106.2 of the Act respecting the conservation and development of wildlife (chapter C-61.1), by an outfitter, an agency or a recreational association;
    (4)  a person who just travels through a ZEC, and for whom the corresponding travel fees are paid to the agency by another person, an association or a group;
    (5)  a person who travels in a ZEC to reach lands in the domain of the State on which exclusive trapping rights only are granted, in a wildlife reserve, in another controlled zone or to reach a beaver reserve for the purpose of carrying out activities related to trapping, and to come back from there; and
    (6)  a lessee of exclusive trapping rights, a professional trapping licence holder or a person referred to in sections 5 to 7 of the Regulation respecting trapping activities and the fur trade (chapter C-61.1, r. 3) authorized by the lessee to trap, who travels in a ZEC for the purpose of carrying out activities related to trapping.
    O.C. 1255-99, s. 19; O.C. 1093-2002, s. 3; O.C. 485-2004, s. 8; O.C. 450-2008, s. 1; O.C. 382-2010, s. 2; O.C. 64-2012, s. 5.
     
    https://www.legisquebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/document/cs/V-1.3?&target=
     
  24. Like
    NHsrx701 got a reaction from doo4adoo in Zec Martin Valin   
    This is unfortunate.  I feel the Zez is operating outside the spirit its creators intended. 
    Below I read through section 3
    and then section 19.
    What is interesting about section 19  is the exception about paying.
    When reviewing these sections,  you may very well need to register but.. if you are traveling to a Private property solely to reach and come back from there then you shouldn't be subjected to the the fee.
    Example:  A persons enters the Zez solely to reach K31 or Chapel and then come back from there.
    The law clearly states "(2.1)  a person who travels in a ZEC solely to reach a principal residence or private property and come back from there, if there is no other practicable road possible;"   
     
    On another note, it will be interesting to see how the Minister deals with this.
    The Club/Federation has been granted a "right of way" for the establishment of the trail If you are operating within the "right of way"   (on the groomed maintained trail),  you shouldn't be subjected to any additional fee's other than what is required by law to operate in said "Right of way".   The Trail pass grants Legal access for use of the trails within the right of way.  
    The Zec indeed has its own rules, but those rules may very well only apply passage outside the easment/right off way the Club/federation has aquired. 
     
    It would be interesting to read the language used in the agreement between the Zec and the club.. 
     
     
     
     
    https://www.legisquebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/document/cr/C-61.1, r. 78 /
    DIVISION II
    REGISTRATION AND ASSIGNMENT
    3. An agency may, by by-law, determine the cases where a person who, for recreational purposes, enters or stays in a ZEC under its management or engages in any other activity therein, shall be required to register.
    Such person must comply with the following registration procedure:
    (1)  identify himself or herself with the person’s name and address, an identification number and, where applicable, the number of the person’s hunting or fishing licence;
    (2)  specify a date and a single location or, as the case may be, a single sector in which the person will be hunting or fishing, for each day of hunting or fishing;
    (3)  specify a date and a location or, as the case may be, a sector where the person will carry on a recreational activity that is part of a recreational activity development plan, for each day the activity will be carried on;
    (4)  place proof of registration on the dashboard of the person’s vehicle so that it may be read from the outside or carry and produce it upon request from a wildlife protection officer, a wildlife protection assistant or an area warden; the duly completed registration is to be deposited at the reception centre on leaving the controlled zone; and
    (5)  pay the fees payable.
    Subject to the fourth paragraph, a person may have the choice of location or sector for hunting, fishing or a recreational activity referred to in subparagraph 3 of the second paragraph modified by a registration officer by paying the difference if the person requests to be transferred to a location or sector for which the fees are higher. If there are no additional fees to be paid, the person may also have it done by a wildlife protection officer, a wildlife protection assistant or an area warden if they are able to immediately notify the registration officer. This paragraph does not apply to a person who hunts in a limited access sector.
    If places are available and subject to the payment of fees, a person may also have a registration officer modify the choice of fishing location or sector in the following cases:
    (1)  to replace a non-limited access sector by a limited access sector or a body of water referred to in section 17.1;
    (2)  to replace a limited access sector or such a body of water by another limited access sector or another such body of water; and
    (3)  to replace a limited access sector or such a body of water by a non-limited access sector.
    O.C. 1255-99, s. 3; O.C. 485-2004, s. 2; O.C. 64-2012, s. 2; O.C. 751-2014, s. 2; S.Q. 2021, c. 24, s. 118.
     
    Section 19.
     
    19. No person may use a vehicle to travel in a ZEC unless he has paid the travel fees set by by-law of the agency, which shall not exceed, subject to section 22,
    (1)  (a)  $11.70 if the person is travelling alone, whether or not the person is bringing in additional vehicles;
    (b)  $11.70 for all persons, if the person is travelling with other persons but is not bringing in additional vehicles;
    (c)  $11.70 per person, if the person is travelling with other persons and bringing in additional vehicles or, where applicable, $11.70 per vehicle, if the number of vehicles including the main vehicle is less than the number of persons travelling; and
    (2)  when entering or leaving the ZEC between 10:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m. from 16 April to 14 September, or between 9:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. from 15 September to 15 April, an additional amount of $4.68 may be charged to the driver of the main vehicle.
    The first paragraph does not apply to
    (1)  a person travelling in a ZEC in the performance of his duties;
    (2)  a person who travels in a ZEC solely to reach a private property located in the territory of the ZEC but not forming part of the ZEC;
    (2.1)  a person who travels in a ZEC solely to reach a principal residence or private property and come back from there, if there is no other practicable road possible;
    (3)  a person whose travel fees have been paid, in accordance with section 106.2 of the Act respecting the conservation and development of wildlife (chapter C-61.1), by an outfitter, an agency or a recreational association;
    (4)  a person who just travels through a ZEC, and for whom the corresponding travel fees are paid to the agency by another person, an association or a group;
    (5)  a person who travels in a ZEC to reach lands in the domain of the State on which exclusive trapping rights only are granted, in a wildlife reserve, in another controlled zone or to reach a beaver reserve for the purpose of carrying out activities related to trapping, and to come back from there; and
    (6)  a lessee of exclusive trapping rights, a professional trapping licence holder or a person referred to in sections 5 to 7 of the Regulation respecting trapping activities and the fur trade (chapter C-61.1, r. 3) authorized by the lessee to trap, who travels in a ZEC for the purpose of carrying out activities related to trapping.
    O.C. 1255-99, s. 19; O.C. 1093-2002, s. 3; O.C. 485-2004, s. 8; O.C. 450-2008, s. 1; O.C. 382-2010, s. 2; O.C. 64-2012, s. 5.
     
    https://www.legisquebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/document/cs/V-1.3?&target=
     
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    NHsrx701 got a reaction from MrGutz in Breaking down and having to be towed   
    Sooner or later it happens to all of us... we break down.   Last year my crankshaft sensor failed.   If you are towing a sled for a long way, this will save you
    This is a flexible 54 inch roll up sled.  It can be tied into the track and the sled can be towed easily.  Keep in mind you need to tie the  snowmbiles bumper to bumper so you can stop the broken sled.    The guy who owns the sled that is pulling you will thank you for it.   Even with the belt off... a free spinning track still has a lot of drag.
         http://quebecrider.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2022_12/image.png.d5550c96b960389b9f929a86103d1c60.png
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