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Right side with all things being equal, no slush or frozen slush to make one want to Favor one side. Having said that, we have several long lake crossings with a single row of stakes and for some reason there is always way more tracks on one side than the other.

Here ya go. https://www.upa.qc.ca/en/the-organisation/

This is good news!!

You have a point but the map does not nessisarily tell the whole story. Not all clubs groom every trail on a schedule. A white trail, no grooming for 72 hrs does not mean it is closed. We regularly see that when either temperatures, precipitation or low traffic dictate a section does not need doing or even an equipment breakdown can affect that status. I often see the trail down the lake from me shows on I Motoneige as not being groomed for awhile and I find it has been done the night before. Seems sometimes a lag in the upload or what every ever of the data. I would think though the map is an important first step and if the trail is white click on it and it will bring up the name of the club that does it, from there one can check their faceBook page or web site for info on any trail closures on their trail system.

From the Hebou Blanc club http://clubmotoneigehiboublanc.com/english/ The dispute between the Provincial Government and Farm Land owners who are threatening to block the trails that cross their land does not affect our clubs trail network.

Very nice! Amazing the talent people must have and the time it takes to do those sculptures and they will only be around till the first warm weather.

Sad to hear his journey has ended but, sounds like he made the best of what he loved all these years, we should all be so lucky. RIP.

With regard to the uncertainty I would think that for anyone planning a trip it would be a good idea to research the different clubs that groom the trails on your intended route. Armed with a list of their FB page, website and telephone numbers, you would possibly have the best resource for local info on trail closures. Every year here in QC it is the responsibility of each club to meet with private land owners on whose land their trails pass and get their approval in writing and so they know better than anyone where the UPA members lands are in their area and are monitoring what the local situation is day to day in this crisis . At least that is the case ( monitoring ) with my club.

I posted the following earlier today in "heard a rumour", but maybe it would be better here now that you have started this thread. This morning Feb 1 from Diable et Rouge club Tremblant. Basically it says,closure of the trails by the UPA as of Feb 1st the club has no information from the local section of the UPA and so the club considers the trails are still open. They are following the situation closely and if the UPA decides to close the trails the club will conform to the decision. they hope in their heart that the differences between the farmers, the club and the government will be resolved to the satisfaction of all. FERMETURE DES SENTIERS PAR L'UPA .... EN DATE DU 1 FEVRIER N AYANT AUCUNE INFORMATIONS DE LA SECTION LOCALE DE L'UPA LE CLUB CONSIDERE QUE LES SENTIERS SONT TOUJOURS OUVERTS ..... NOUS SUIVONS LA SITUATION DE TRES PRES ... SI L UPA DECIDE DE FERMER LES SENTIERS LE CLUB SE CONFORMERAS A LEURS DÉCISIONS .... Souhaitant de tout cœur que le diffèrent entre nos cultivateurs partenaires du club et le gvt se règle a la satisfaction de tous !!!! Quote Edit Quote this

This morning Feb 1 from Diable et Rouge club Tremblant. Basically it says,closure of the trails by the UPA as of Feb 1st the club has no information from the local section of the UPA and so the club considers the trails are still open. They are following the situation closely and if the UPA decides to close the trails the club will conform to the decision. they hope in their heart that the differences between the farmers, the club and the government will be resolved to the satisfaction of all. FERMETURE DES SENTIERS PAR L'UPA .... EN DATE DU 1 FEVRIER N AYANT AUCUNE INFORMATIONS DE LA SECTION LOCALE DE L'UPA LE CLUB CONSIDERE QUE LES SENTIERS SONT TOUJOURS OUVERTS ..... NOUS SUIVONS LA SITUATION DE TRES PRES ... SI L UPA DECIDE DE FERMER LES SENTIERS LE CLUB SE CONFORMERAS A LEURS DÉCISIONS .... Souhaitant de tout cœur que le diffèrent entre nos cultivateurs partenaires du club et le gvt se règle a la satisfaction de tous !!!!

And where are you situated?

Well that is too bad, been there many times riding from my house and staying at either village de Windigo or chutes de Windigo. Always a variation in trail quality as we move from club to club and the amount of traffic but never that bad.

I have seen more reports suggesting the 6th than the 1st, however a local paper gave the 1st as the date. I guess this reply is about as clear as mud, 😐

You can go on line and fill in the form. You are supposed to do it ASP after buying your seasons pass ( 10 days max I think ). You must provide name of insurance company and policy #. The FCMQ insurance is through Intact Insurance. https://snowmobile.intact.ca/

Two of my older Polaris have a grease nipple on the jack shaft bearing and a sticker on the air box reminding you to grease it. My Yammie doesn't, guessing it is a few bucks cheaper to manufacture with just a sealed bearing.

We were a venture GT, grand touring 1200, and a mxz. We were on the other end of the 43. Left montcalm ( weir ) down the railway bed and through st Remi to Brebeuf. Yes nice riding we had little traffic and only 1-2 sleds ahead of us on a Newly groomed trail once we got to st Remi. Railwaybed was not groomed overnight, few studded bumps and loose snow but still decent.

Yes Diable et Rouge groomed all their trails Fri waiting for colder temps and most but not all again last night. If you we the second st of tracks out of St Jovite today, we might have crossed paths. 4 of us went for breakfast in Brebuf.

Here is the act respecting off road vehicles in QC. Pretty lengthy and it does cover Atvs as well. Maybe there is a link to a condensed version on the FCMQ site. Also with regard to day passes, maybe your best bet is to look up the particular club that is responsible for the trail you plan on passing on once crossing the border or contact the fcmq directly and ask how you could get day or multiple day passes ahead of time. http://legisquebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/ShowDoc/cs/V-1.2

With respect to those trail conditions, what were the night time temperatures?,I think I know why since we had similar conditions in Tremblant. Yes the trails were mostly trashed by heavy traffic and the free weekend. It was mild when most clubs groomed for the free weekend and mild when everybody drove on them they never got a chance to set up. It was never cold enough all week to make grooming worth while, they don't like to groom unless we get cold nights to set them up or they are ruined after just a few sleds pass. We had no grooming here all week until Fri night when it got colder, but still not cold enough for a really good set. -5 fri night. I rode Sat morning Tremblant to Labelle on freshly groomed trails and by afternoon they were beginning to get chewed up.

Ouch on the break down, but the rest of the trip sounds / looks good.

Not that I am aware of. I imagine which ever way it goes the news will be out quick.

Way I look at this on the multiple machine aspect is, Ski hills offer seasons pass to the individual person not their equipment. fcmq actually registers the person not the machine on the free weekend. You would not be putting more sleds on the trail for the same price. Same in a way for the multi prov pass idea, you pay more but you can't be riding in both places at once. Seems to me marketed right it could actually increase revenue from passes and grow the sport.

I've often thought there should be a reciprocal privilege type pass available. Paying a extra premium for a pass that allowed access to the trail system in a second Provence would interest me. A few of my buddies buy both a full Ont and a full Que pass, would be far easier to buy one pass at a discount over the individual price. I've also thought there should be a discount for one person with multiple machines, got to buy passes for each but I can only drive one at a time anyway!

If it heated strong enough to melt the ice in some conditions, ie freezing rain in 20f and the wind chill from moving, you would melt the plastic lens. Taller windshield with a recurve forward to direct the air over the helmet would probably help too.

While there is no announcement on the site, it might be worth reading this and realize that, 50% of Quebec's trails are on private land and we as snowmobilers ride on those property's as a privilege not a assumed right. I can only assume that the fcmq is not sitting with it's head in the sand over this, but working behind the scenes in what capacity it can to minimize the impact should it occur and announcements on the fcmq at this point may be detrimental to their approach. The landowners Snowmobiling in Quebec distinguishes itself by its trail network which is the object of envy from snowmobilers everywhere. Totalling over 32,000 km of interconnected trails located in virtually every corner of the province, it stands as one of the most impressive recreational trail networks in the world. In fact, there are more kilometers of groomed trails in Quebec than there are of paved roads maintained by Quebec`s Ministry of Transport! While the latter are property of the state, the same cannot be said of snowmobile trails. Tracks everywhere The arrival of the snowmobile, and particularly the incredible popularity boom of the 1960s and early 1970s, changed Quebec`s rural landscape. In essence, it is not to overstate matters to proclaim that the snowmobile became, almost overnight, a “must have” for a significant number of Quebec families. The practically unbounded passion of the new enthusiasts resulted in the countryside becoming a huge playground, with snowmobile tracks appearing almost everywhere. While one could assume that farmers and landowners would have objected to this condition, the reality was that most got swept up in the fervour themselves, contributing to the situation. The arrival of trails At the beginning of the 1970s, some began working towards the establishment of a trail network that would link communities and permit travelling to take place in a safer and more consistent setting. The process of creating these trails started off slowly and rather informally, with (snowmobiling) landowners offering up access to their land for this fledgling network. Localized and formalized trail systems began developing in a simultaneous fashion across Quebec, and soon visionaries began contemplating and calling for the establishment of an interconnected, province-wide network. Growing into a new reality As the developing system grew over time, doing so at an ever-increasing pace, new concerns began to appear, namely getting land access from landowners who were not avid snowmobilers, as well as issues related to liability concerns. As is often the case, the solution to both issues laid in a single course of action, that is, the creation of proper land-use permission agreements. These simultaneously made it possible to establish precise terms and conditions for the use of land, while also creating a contractual basis for the issuance of critical liability insurance coverage for the landowners. Land-use today Land-use permission agreements continue to be the basis for the establishment of trails on private land (which account for 50% of the FCMQ`s 32,000 km of trails). Each fall, volunteers from each of the FCMQ`s 200 member clubs meet and negotiate tens of thousands of land-use agreements with landowners. These standardized agreements provide protection to landowners. It is important to note that landowners receive no payment or compensation for extending this privilege to the snowmobiling community. In the case of public lands, clubs must obtain permission from the land manager. Loss of land use Land use is a privilege, not a right. As such, the land-use agreement is an inherently fragile document that can be revoked at virtually any time by the landowner. As such, clubs often rely on signage or other means to raise awareness and ensure that snowmobilers respect the allocated corridors. Despite this, the issue remains contentious and snowmobilers are reminded that seemingly harmless off-trail excursions could potentially have a serious impact on the trail`s long-term sustainability. FCMQ programs The FCMQ, its clubs and volunteers are extremely grateful for the generosity of landowners, for without them, our trail system would cease to exist.