sledfarmer

Very nice trails and usually very little traffic if you keep  to the west . The 322 going south to Lac Cayamant is one one my favorites , fast and seldom ever meet a sled.
But lets just keep this on the downlow 🤫

This is my playground.
It's a mixed bag of everything basically.
Wide open logging roads
Narrower logging roads
Tight twisty trails
Railroad bed
Lake crossing.
***  also heard about a trail up Lépine road. Stay tuned!

Good eye Signfan! ....there's my newly adopted club hard at it!

 

What we have here is a classic example of “be careful what you wish for” all those who signed petitions and fought to close the P’tit train du nord trail are surely exactly like this group of unhappy campers, Now as the other people along the closed section of trail are hugging their trees and singing coom ba yah, This group of their companions will just have to deal with it. 
Remember it’s better to be pissed off than be pissed on. (Unless you are into that)
I LOVE LOVE LOVE the fact that basically the MTQ told the residents to go kick rocks as it’s their right of way and they can do what they see fit with it. 
Surely will be a hotbed of police activity as was the former trail. Personally does not affect me as it’s not an area I would normally pass through anyway but for those who been waiting for it to make a comeback I am happy for you. 
 
 

This area affects me in a huge way and although I usually set cruise control around 140km/hr , I will be more than happy to ride the 9km at 10km/hr to ensure many years of passage . 😁

This area affects me in a huge way and although I usually set cruise control around 140km/hr , I will be more than happy to ride the 9km at 10km/hr to ensure many years of passage . 😁

That's some zen-buddha sh*t right there.

Those are not jumps every 100 feet?......oh....
LOL
GutZ

only 16 years and 3 million dollars .  We cross at Masson so this opens the gate to the entire east half of the trail network for us . Very happy camper here !

Nice to see it opening.  What a bunch of whining from people that already live beside a freeway.  As silly as the original closure.  Those homes all were built next to an operating railroad.  This will make a great loop around the park.  Everyone respect the posted speed limits.  This club has had enough grief with this.  Respectful riders will allow them to show this can be used safely.  Prove all of the folks in the article wrong.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/2020-11-23/laurentides/un-sentier-qui-ne-passe-pas.php
A path that does not pass

 The MTQ is about to give its approval to the opening of a 9 km snowmobile trail built in its right-of-way, along the 117, between Saint-Faustin – Lac-Carré and Mont-Tremblant.  A trail built at a cost of $ 3 million.
 If Claude Armstrong is sure of one thing, it is that there will be deaths on the new snowmobile trail that passes in front of his house, on the side of Route 117, in the Laurentians.
 Claude Armstrong lives on route 117, in Saint-Faustin – Lac-Carré.  The new snowmobile trail passes less than 14 meters from his house.
 I guarantee you there will be deaths.
 Claude armstrong
 "I don't mean to be pessimistic, but it's the same," he says.  If I have a choice between getting into my butt at 90 km / h or getting into a snowmobile, I'll go for the snowmobile.  "
 Mr. Armstrong lives with his wife, Guylaine Parent, in Saint-Faustin – Lac-Carré, on the edge of Mont-Tremblant.  His house can be seen driving north on the 117, just past the Go-Kart Emond and Motel Tremblant.  It is even easier to see since the Quebec Ministry of Transport (MTQ) cut the trees that protected it a little from the noise of cars and trucks, and their headlights at night.
 But it is nothing compared to what is to come.
 Two weights, two measures
 The new trail aims to restore the continuity of the network of snowmobile trails in Quebec, broken by a judgment of the Superior Court in 2004. By prohibiting the passage of snowmobiles on a section of the linear park of the P'tit Train du Nord, between  Saint-Faustin and Labelle, this judgment had the effect of cutting the network in two and preventing the passage of snowmobiles from the east to the west of Quebec.  This interferes with the practice of this activity, which many followers appreciate long journeys.  This is also detrimental to its tourism potential, particularly among Ontario and European customers.
 The MTQ has entrusted the project management of the track to the Diable et Rouge snowmobile club, a non-profit organization.  “For me and for the club, the trail is over,” says its president, Roland Leroy.  Signage is installed.  We are only waiting for the OK from Minister Bonnardel.  The rest of us think there is no security problem.  The work that needed to be done has been done.  "
 While the objective is laudable, the proposed track poses two problems.  First, the well-being of residents, who will be affected by the passage of noisy snowmobiles, which number in the hundreds, on certain weekend days.  Then, security, because the entrance to several houses is on Route 117 and to access their homes by car, residents will have to cross the snowmobile trail.
 The new 9 km stretch was due to open last winter.  But the MTQ decided to postpone this decision because local residents complained that they had not been consulted.  Corrections also had to be made to the layout to bring it up to standard.
 "It does not hold up"
 Mr. Armstrong isn't the only one who thinks this project doesn't make "common sense."  His wife Guylaine Parent and stepfather Guy Parent are opposed.  His daughter Annie-Claude and his wife's cousin, Francine Tremblay, too.  They all live on the 117, next to each other.
 Guy Parent learned of the new snowmobile trail when a tractor started pushing dirt in front of his house in the summer of 2019.
 
Guy Parent, Claude Armstrong's stepfather
 It doesn't hold up, it's too dangerous.
 Guy Parent
 For her part, Hélène Turgeon remains one minute by car, on Maisonneuve Road.
 “It’s not safe for motorists, it’s not safe for snowmobilers, and it’s not safe for us residents,” she adds.  People who are going up north at night are going to have car headlights in their faces for miles and miles because it's going to be two-way, that snowmobile trail runway.  It’s not smart.  "

 Hélène Turgeon lives on Maisonneuve Road which opens onto 117, in Mont-Tremblant.
 I'm afraid of having a crash.
 Helene turgeon
 Nadine Dumas is on the Chemin de la Pisciculture in Saint-Faustin – Lac-Carré, 2.5 km further on.  The new snowmobile trail runs through his yard.
 Last year, she was the one who caused the shutdown by filing a complaint with the MTQ and another with the Order of Engineers because they forgot to ask for her consent.  Several of the mature trees that provided shade and shielded her from the noise of the 117 were cut without warning.

 The snowmobile trail passes through Nadine Dumas' yard in Saint-Faustin.  A bridge was built to span the stream that borders its land.
 They made monumental mistakes and I don't have to suffer them.
 Nadine Dumas
 Twenty-four residents signed a letter circulated by Ms. Turgeon asking for the project to be stopped in its current form.  Several wrote to Transport Minister François Bonnardel, Labelle MP Chantal Jeannotte, and Mont-Tremblant mayor Luc Brisebois, hoping to prevent it from opening.
 “The MTQ is more concerned with amphibians and wetlands than humans,” deplores Claude Lamoureux, husband of Ms. Turgeon.  It's as if humans are not part of the kingdom.  "
 But 24 citizens is not much.  In January 2002, more than 1,000 of them filed for a class action, along with an injunction, to close the snowmobile trail on the P'tit Train du Nord linear park, between Saint-Faustin and Labelle.  .
 Judge Hélène Langlois, of the Superior Court, ruled in their favor in November 2004. She at the same time condemned the government and the MRC des Laurentides to pay $ 1,200 per year to residents living 100 meters or less from the linear park, in  compensation for the inconvenience suffered during the seven seasons when snowmobile traffic was authorized, between 1997 and 2004.
 The influence of the MTQ
 Paradoxically, the new path will cause residents to suffer much more marked inconvenience than those sanctioned by this judgment.  The reason is that the Department of Transport has the right to do so because the new runway is on their right-of-way.
 "The fact that the trail passes on the right-of-way, near Route 117, that makes a difference, in the sense that the Ministry must have access to this right-of-way anyway, whether it is to clear snow from Route 117  or to do different jobs, ”explains MTQ spokesperson Nathalie Nolin.
 
 “So the people who live nearby cannot fundamentally contest interventions on the MTQ's right-of-way.  "
 At Claude Armstrong and Guylaine Parent's, the path passes 13.75 m from the living room.  It is also very close to Isabelle Casault's, in Saint-Faustin – Lac-Carré, which has never been consulted.
 
 The track passes very close to the house of Isabelle Casault who lives near route 117, rue Saint-Faustin.
 The MTQ says that the edge of the road belongs to it.  But it's still happening in my backyard.  It's going to be super dangerous.  And here, besides, it is already very dangerous.  I have often seen accidents.
 Isabelle Casault
 His neighbor Isabelle Grand-Maison, who has not been asked for her consent either, estimates the distance between the snowmobile trail and her house at six meters.  "There will be deaths if Ski-Doos cross here," she swears.
 On November 4, the MTQ carried out an inspection of the trail and demanded additional work.  But, "according to another analysis which will confirm that everything is in conformity, it would indeed be possible that the trail can be opened this year", confirms the spokesperson for the MTQ, who adds that a limit of 10 km / h will be imposed.  in places on the track.
 Social acceptability of the project
 The mayor of Mont-Tremblant, Luc Brisebois, without objecting, is not enthusiastic.  He asked to meet with Minister François Bonnardel to share his concerns with him.
 “They are at home,” he said of the MTQ.  They can do whatever they want.  What I find sad is that there is a safety aspect to it.  It seems to me that we might care a little about our people.  Me, it's my whole world.  "
 I am not against the snowmobile trail.  But I will try to find solutions to make people happy.
 Luc Brisebois, Mayor of Mont-Tremblant
 Regarding the social acceptability of the project, the spokesperson for the Ministry stressed that snowmobilers must also be taken into account.
 "Social acceptability is not fair to residents," explains Nathalie Nolin.  It is also for snowmobilers who want to practice their sport.  There are different groups, too, who are in favor.  You have to look at all the needs and orientations related to that.  "
 According to the president of the Diable et Rouge snowmobile club, Roland Leroy, "people who are not happy, there will always be".
 Many believe, however, that it would have been better if the trail had followed the 117 on the south side or, better yet, had passed into the median in the center.  But these two solutions, considered by the MTQ, would have cost much more.
 Chronology of events
JANUARY 1989
 The MRC des Laurentides is transforming the railway line between Saint-Jérôme and Mont-Laurier into a linear park.
 JANUARY 1997
 The MRC authorizes the use of snowmobiles there in winter.
 NOVEMBER 1997
 The Coalition for the Protection of the Environment of the P’tit Train du Nord Linear Park is born.
 JANUARY 2002
 The Court allows the Coalition's class action claim, along with an injunction to close the runway.  In 2000, the first records show 523 to 874 snowmobiles per day on Saturdays, from 427 to 567 on Sundays.
 
NOVEMBER 2004
Justice Hélène Langlois, of the Superior Court, ordered the linear park to be closed to snowmobiles and the payment of compensation to residents of the snowmobile trail.
 
DECEMBER 2004
 The government passes a special law prohibiting residents of snowmobile trails from suing because of the related inconvenience.  He is appealing Justice Langlois' decision.
 JULY 2009
 The appeal is abandoned.
 
DECEMBER 2017
 Quebec announces the construction of the 9 km snowmobile trail between Saint-Faustin – Lac-Carré and Mont-Tremblant.  He gives the mandate to carry out the work to the Club de motoneige Diable et Rouge.
 
AUGUST 2019
 Beginning of the construction site.
 DECEMBER 2019
 The opening of the trail is postponed for a year.  A working group, bringing together elected officials, residents, representatives of the Ministère des Transports du Québec (MTQ) and the Fédération des clubs de motoneigistes du Québec, was created to coordinate the next steps.
 
 
Snowmobiling in numbers
3.27 billion
 Economic spinoffs generated by snowmobiling in Quebec
 14,000
 Number of snowmobile-related jobs
 33,000
 Number of kilometers of marked snowmobile trails, interconnected and maintained by volunteers
 30,000
 Number of tourists from outside Quebec
 207,991
 Number of snowmobiles in circulation in the province in 2019
 200
 Number of snowmobile clubs grouped within the Fédération des clubs de motoneigistes du Québec (FCMQ)
 330
 Cost of access to the trails for the 2020-2021 season before December 9.  This amount increases to $ 420 after December 9.
 Sources: Government of Quebec and FCMQ

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I crossed at Chutes de Blondeau  both last year and the year before and ice has always been very good , only one  issue , its a bit of a challenge trying to find the trail  on the Ont side if your coming from Quebec , its not marked and not groomed for nearly 2 km . We had to follow the tracks across couple of field to hook up to the trail.

I crossed at Chutes de Blondeau  both last year and the year before and ice has always been very good , only one  issue , its a bit of a challenge trying to find the trail  on the Ont side if your coming from Quebec , its not marked and not groomed for nearly 2 km . We had to follow the tracks across couple of field to hook up to the trail.

In a bar fight I want this guy on my team 😉

Hi Sledfarmer ... Thanks for the compliment!  Up until this past weekend, conditions from the clubhouse north were all-round excellent.  Now, we're currently facing a minor challenge as the John Deere that grooms north towards Duhamel from the Clubhouse calved Saturday evening, and we only managed to limp it home yesterday morning (a hydraulic hose for the ramsteer popped a fitting and, while attempting to limp it home Sunday, electrical problems erupted.  We thought it was a bum alternator, but it turns out an electrical junction box under the cab became mangled.  We're currently waiting for our chief mechanic/dozer driver's garage to be available before trucking it south for repair.  In the meantime, our Pisten Bully will be doing double duty.  It will be heading up that section of trail starting 5:00 am tomorrow morning.
That heavy wet snow was just what the doctor ordered to put the finishing touches on our trails.  Once we get that all groomed, now that it's cold, things will be in great shape!  We're still lacking in the signage department, though, so the iMotoneige app would be a nice feature to have on your phone.
Dan

Little rumor out there that BRP will be releasing news of another new sled on Feb 21st ( SUPERCHARGED 900 ace mach z ) . Ha Ha I say , wishful thinking .