fredsleds

Also, if you've had a DUI in the last 10 years and haven't had you're record expunged, they may not let you in.  This is what 182ray is referring to.
Don't even think for a second about bringing a handgun into QC, you'll be back in the USA in no time flat if you're lucky, if not you may be arrested...

I wet on imotoneige and was going to re-buy it, when I did it just updated to 2108-19 automatically for free..a bit odd, but that's what happened

I remember buying it only once, it seems to update for free each year.  I'm getting the grooming delay and it matches what's on my computer...

Alain,
C'est tres bon.
Wow, what a great video, thank you!!
 
Fred

Last year we took the Bras Louis North from TQ 93, made a right at the "T", then came to what I guess is the trail head to Zec Onatchiway.  We didn't take it as it was late in the day.  I'm going to be up the in February, I think it said ??30 KM from the trail head.  My questions would be;'
1. Is there food there?
2. Is the gas there?
3. How far form the intersection of the FCMQ trail is 30 KM correct, I doesn't rememebr exactly?
 
Thanks!!

I don't see any trails on the FCMQ map.  Is this all off trail or is there a rtoad that you can ride.  Any gas there?  looks like a cool place.

Booked the Drakkar 2/16 to 2/22.
Hope to meet anyone who posts on this forum that week.
Fred

Booked the Drakkar 2/16 to 2/22.
Hope to meet anyone who posts on this forum that week.
Fred

Bought 2 passes yesterday using 116 as the Club, keep the pictures coming Jean Guy!!

Ouch, I'm staying at the QI, that looks painful!

I found an RV sales/storage facility in Saguenay A. S. Levesque 450-691-5860 ext 3301 Serge LaBelle (large company with many businesses/locations throughout Quebec) that will store a 2 place trailer in their secure RV facility for $375 for SIX months, about 60 CAD/month.  You could possible leave your sled/trailers in November and just pick them up when you come up to ride.  Than take them home after last ride. Beats hauling if you come 2-3 times/season. You could even fly to Bagotville/QC and rent a SUV to haul them to wherever you're staying.

We stayed there one night.   Decent rooms w/ small kitchens. Weird bar policy, had to pay for each drink right away, no running a tab.  Food was just OK for dinner.  Spa was real nice though ($20 CAD extra per day to use it though).  Ate lunch there a few days later, 2 choices burger or hot dog.  They also don't have a cooked breakfast unless there's a large group.  If not too many people just a "continental breakfast".  As far as I can tell the La Sagueneenee looks good to me for what our group wants.

Our group did not pass them on the right, that's crazy.
If a slow group intentionally won't let you pass, IMHO it just creates anger and frustration.

To mcstar:
As always there are 2 sides to s story.  This was out first day, after we saw the 2 riders (who we just met) doing the hole shots, we explained that this was not proper  trail etiquette.
To your other statement.  We followed you for 10 MILES.  You had FOUR chances at stop signs to let us pass you.  Everyone is entitled to ride to their abilities.  The "wannabe racers" are aged 46 to 61 each with 20+ years of experience.  This is like the guy driving 55 in the left lane of 70 MPH highway, eventually people pass on the right because it seems that person thinks they "own the road".
We ride faster than you, you all had mirrors, had FOUR chances to wave us on before we passed on a straight away.  Then when the last 2 didn't get past you and we were in the parking lot of the Relais, you STILL wouldn't let them by (your FIFTH chance).  At this point you had to know that we wanted to get by you.  So finally after the SIXTH attempt to pass you let us get by.
In our 6 days in the Gaspe your group of 4 was the ONLY group who intentionally didn't let us pass them.   At least 10 other groups just waved us on. Why didn't you stop at a stop sign and wave us on?  Your entitled to ride at whatever speed you want and so are we.  Did it hurt your ego to let us go by?
Finally, we got passed by young guys on fast sleds at least 10 times.  The minute we saw them "on our asses" we waved them on.  No big deal.  Your stubbornness created the entire situation. You had SIX chances over 15 minutes to let us go by, I just can't understand why you did what you did. TQ5 is not your personal trail where you can dictate the speed to everyone else.
As far as it being a family sport, of course it is.  Every 2 up going 30 MPH lets the faster people go by.  The 3 trailing sleds in your group clearly wanted us gone, it was your leader who saw us and decided that we should have to ride at YOUR speed, not what we wanted to ride.  We were well within our capabilities, you were going way slower then the average and I bet you had multiple similar encounters with others unless you interaction with us made you change your behavior.
Anyway, all can learn from this, if someone wants to pass, I say wave them on at the next stop sign and save everyone some aggravation.
And to Shore1066, this was my 12th trip to Quebec since 1999, we HATE Tug Hill and would never ride their because of the bad behavior/alcohol consumption that goes on there. mcstar's group was the ones who need to be educated.
 
Fred

Heh mcstar,
 
No worries.  I guess each of our groups wasn't communicating with all the others.
Maybe we'll meet up one day.  Next year we're going to do the trip unguided with just people that we know.
Fred

To mcstar:
As always there are 2 sides to s story.  This was out first day, after we saw the 2 riders (who we just met) doing the hole shots, we explained that this was not proper  trail etiquette.
To your other statement.  We followed you for 10 MILES.  You had FOUR chances at stop signs to let us pass you.  Everyone is entitled to ride to their abilities.  The "wannabe racers" are aged 46 to 61 each with 20+ years of experience.  This is like the guy driving 55 in the left lane of 70 MPH highway, eventually people pass on the right because it seems that person thinks they "own the road".
We ride faster than you, you all had mirrors, had FOUR chances to wave us on before we passed on a straight away.  Then when the last 2 didn't get past you and we were in the parking lot of the Relais, you STILL wouldn't let them by (your FIFTH chance).  At this point you had to know that we wanted to get by you.  So finally after the SIXTH attempt to pass you let us get by.
In our 6 days in the Gaspe your group of 4 was the ONLY group who intentionally didn't let us pass them.   At least 10 other groups just waved us on. Why didn't you stop at a stop sign and wave us on?  Your entitled to ride at whatever speed you want and so are we.  Did it hurt your ego to let us go by?
Finally, we got passed by young guys on fast sleds at least 10 times.  The minute we saw them "on our asses" we waved them on.  No big deal.  Your stubbornness created the entire situation. You had SIX chances over 15 minutes to let us go by, I just can't understand why you did what you did. TQ5 is not your personal trail where you can dictate the speed to everyone else.
As far as it being a family sport, of course it is.  Every 2 up going 30 MPH lets the faster people go by.  The 3 trailing sleds in your group clearly wanted us gone, it was your leader who saw us and decided that we should have to ride at YOUR speed, not what we wanted to ride.  We were well within our capabilities, you were going way slower then the average and I bet you had multiple similar encounters with others unless you interaction with us made you change your behavior.
Anyway, all can learn from this, if someone wants to pass, I say wave them on at the next stop sign and save everyone some aggravation.
And to Shore1066, this was my 12th trip to Quebec since 1999, we HATE Tug Hill and would never ride their because of the bad behavior/alcohol consumption that goes on there. mcstar's group was the ones who need to be educated.
 
Fred

Heh mcstar,
 
No worries.  I guess each of our groups wasn't communicating with all the others.
Maybe we'll meet up one day.  Next year we're going to do the trip unguided with just people that we know.
Fred

Our group did not pass them on the right, that's crazy.
If a slow group intentionally won't let you pass, IMHO it just creates anger and frustration.

To mcstar:
As always there are 2 sides to s story.  This was out first day, after we saw the 2 riders (who we just met) doing the hole shots, we explained that this was not proper  trail etiquette.
To your other statement.  We followed you for 10 MILES.  You had FOUR chances at stop signs to let us pass you.  Everyone is entitled to ride to their abilities.  The "wannabe racers" are aged 46 to 61 each with 20+ years of experience.  This is like the guy driving 55 in the left lane of 70 MPH highway, eventually people pass on the right because it seems that person thinks they "own the road".
We ride faster than you, you all had mirrors, had FOUR chances to wave us on before we passed on a straight away.  Then when the last 2 didn't get past you and we were in the parking lot of the Relais, you STILL wouldn't let them by (your FIFTH chance).  At this point you had to know that we wanted to get by you.  So finally after the SIXTH attempt to pass you let us get by.
In our 6 days in the Gaspe your group of 4 was the ONLY group who intentionally didn't let us pass them.   At least 10 other groups just waved us on. Why didn't you stop at a stop sign and wave us on?  Your entitled to ride at whatever speed you want and so are we.  Did it hurt your ego to let us go by?
Finally, we got passed by young guys on fast sleds at least 10 times.  The minute we saw them "on our asses" we waved them on.  No big deal.  Your stubbornness created the entire situation. You had SIX chances over 15 minutes to let us go by, I just can't understand why you did what you did. TQ5 is not your personal trail where you can dictate the speed to everyone else.
As far as it being a family sport, of course it is.  Every 2 up going 30 MPH lets the faster people go by.  The 3 trailing sleds in your group clearly wanted us gone, it was your leader who saw us and decided that we should have to ride at YOUR speed, not what we wanted to ride.  We were well within our capabilities, you were going way slower then the average and I bet you had multiple similar encounters with others unless you interaction with us made you change your behavior.
Anyway, all can learn from this, if someone wants to pass, I say wave them on at the next stop sign and save everyone some aggravation.
And to Shore1066, this was my 12th trip to Quebec since 1999, we HATE Tug Hill and would never ride their because of the bad behavior/alcohol consumption that goes on there. mcstar's group was the ones who need to be educated.
 
Fred

Our Gapse Trip with Gary Pruit and Bon Voyage Sowmobile Tours
 
3/4 Arrive Hotel Universal RDL
 
3/5 RDL to Matane...trails bumpy, lots of unexpected 3 foot snow drifts but all an all not bad
 
3/6 Matane to Mont St Pierre, blue skies, best day on a sled in my 21 years of riding, amazing views
 
3/7 Mont St Pierre to Gaspe with detour to Perce Rock, again amazing day
 
3/8 Gaspe to Maria 216 miles in freezing rain/drizzle.  Thank God for Klim gear to keep us dry
 
3/9 Maria to Amqui, despite going to bed in Maria with the trails slush/mashed potatoes woke up to groomed perfection, these groomers are amazing.
 
3/10 Amqui back to RDL cold and windy but very sunny and nice
 
1,121 miles in 6 days.
 
Bob Voyage crew was great, nice pace of riding, every morning you packed your small bag, left it in room, gave you key to support truch driver who loaded you gear after you leave/  When you arrive, he gives you your room key and ytour bag is in the room waiting for you.  No waiting to check in/out.
 
Very professional and highly recommended operation
 
Fred
 
 

Our Gapse Trip with Gary Pruit and Bon Voyage Sowmobile Tours
 
3/4 Arrive Hotel Universal RDL
 
3/5 RDL to Matane...trails bumpy, lots of unexpected 3 foot snow drifts but all an all not bad
 
3/6 Matane to Mont St Pierre, blue skies, best day on a sled in my 21 years of riding, amazing views
 
3/7 Mont St Pierre to Gaspe with detour to Perce Rock, again amazing day
 
3/8 Gaspe to Maria 216 miles in freezing rain/drizzle.  Thank God for Klim gear to keep us dry
 
3/9 Maria to Amqui, despite going to bed in Maria with the trails slush/mashed potatoes woke up to groomed perfection, these groomers are amazing.
 
3/10 Amqui back to RDL cold and windy but very sunny and nice
 
1,121 miles in 6 days.
 
Bob Voyage crew was great, nice pace of riding, every morning you packed your small bag, left it in room, gave you key to support truch driver who loaded you gear after you leave/  When you arrive, he gives you your room key and ytour bag is in the room waiting for you.  No waiting to check in/out.
 
Very professional and highly recommended operation
 
Fred
 
 

Yes they have gas (may want to call first, because your going to be close to out when you get there from wherever your coming )
 
Place is amazing, beautiful, friendly owner, good English, super food (expensive)
 
Trail off 83 is well marked and was perfect when I was there last year.

Trailers/trucks are in a lock up at night, large gated area.
They do have a garage for sleds, but, we were getting back late and it was usually full.  We put them in the driveway of the cottage and pulled our truck in sideways to block them in.
It seemed very safe, but, as we all know if they realty want them they'll find a way.
The riding was good, sections of nice twisty trails through the woods, then large open areas of farmers fields.  Very hilly areas mixed with flats. A couple of railroad beds/bike trails too for WOT.  The riding was very varied so it wasn't just WOT all day.  I've been to LSJ and it was definitely different riding, but, in a good way.  Gas/food were not an issue if you planned your routes in advance.
Also, the FCMQ mobile app was amazing. I mounted my Android in a waterproof case to the sled with an X mount by RAM mounts and it was super accurate, even had detours in it.  At times ATV trails ran with the sled trails and the app made navigation super easy.  For $3 it is very well worth the money, and in the morning if you lf you have WIFI you can see where they groomed. Phone battery would really burn fast so I would charge it whenever we stopped.  It was near zero F and the phone kept working.  I tried to charge it with a lighter adapter that my sled has, but, after a few minutes it would give a warning that it was too cold to charge the battery.  It would last about 3 hours and everywhere we stopped was happy to charge it for me.

Trailers/trucks are in a lock up at night, large gated area.
They do have a garage for sleds, but, we were getting back late and it was usually full.  We put them in the driveway of the cottage and pulled our truck in sideways to block them in.
It seemed very safe, but, as we all know if they realty want them they'll find a way.
The riding was good, sections of nice twisty trails through the woods, then large open areas of farmers fields.  Very hilly areas mixed with flats. A couple of railroad beds/bike trails too for WOT.  The riding was very varied so it wasn't just WOT all day.  I've been to LSJ and it was definitely different riding, but, in a good way.  Gas/food were not an issue if you planned your routes in advance.
Also, the FCMQ mobile app was amazing. I mounted my Android in a waterproof case to the sled with an X mount by RAM mounts and it was super accurate, even had detours in it.  At times ATV trails ran with the sled trails and the app made navigation super easy.  For $3 it is very well worth the money, and in the morning if you lf you have WIFI you can see where they groomed. Phone battery would really burn fast so I would charge it whenever we stopped.  It was near zero F and the phone kept working.  I tried to charge it with a lighter adapter that my sled has, but, after a few minutes it would give a warning that it was too cold to charge the battery.  It would last about 3 hours and everywhere we stopped was happy to charge it for me.

We had a great week here.  Stayed in the cottage that can easily take 5 guys.  Very clean, 2 baths, kitchen, laundry.  2 minute walk to the hotel.
 
Hotel is amazing, great staff and food.  Super deluxe hot tub, sauna area outside, they give you robes, towel.  For 6 beakfast and 3 dines with the room it was 91 USD/day.  The manager France Limire is fantastic.
trails we really great, except Tuesday evening they had sleet, rail and snow, so Wednesday during an 8 hour ride we cam across 3 sleds all day.  Had to break trail but tit was fun, by Thursday everything groomed to perfection again.
 
Highly recommends this place and if you're wife or GF sleds, this is the place to stay.