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This is a continuation of trip two from St Raymond.
We start up 23 and wow!  The groomer did just come down here.  The trail has had a little time to set up and it is smooooth with a dusting.  This is beautiful.  Now I have to pay attention otherwise Sandi is gone.  I like to look around a little but if I don't watch Sandi, she will be out of sight.  On a trail like this, sometimes she gets on a mission and goes.
This is snowmobiling at its best.  Nice temperature, clear sky, fresh groomed trail, no traffic.  What could be better?  We get to the intersection with 368 and turn right.  Oh this is even better.  Such a nice trail with the gentle curves and rolling terrain.  Keep on riding.  This trail keeps getting better and better.  As we get close to the RJL station, the groomer tracks are getting fresher.  No snowmobile tracks ahead of us now.  Yep.  There is the grooomer.  He is making a left towards the RJL.  We stay on 368.  Not quite as nice but we are happy with what we had.  This really isn't bad.  The groomer had probably come out this way this morning.  A little drifting here and there but pretty smooth.
We hit 83 turn left and run the last few miles to Chicoutimi.  What a nice day.  The ride just kept getting better and better.  We have three days of riding ahead of us.  Lets hope they turn out as good.
Jack & Sandi

A side bar for those who have an 850.
On our Christmas trip, the 850 seemed like it was getting decent gas mileage.  I know we don't buy these for mileage but I'm always curious how far will a tank bring me.  This year I purchased the BRP 15 liter aux Lynk tank.  So today I decided to ride until I ran out of gas.  The St Raymond to Chicoutimi is a good test area.  
This morning we topped off both sleds.  At Mt Apica with 118 miles so far, we put $30 (23 liters) in Sandi's 1200.  Nothing in mine.  I've got three bars on the gauge, 60 miles to the Sag in Chicoutimi and 15 liters for back up.
At 147 miles, the low gas light comes on.  OK, lets see how many miles the warning light gives me.  157 miles and still running.  167 still going.  We hit the intersection with 83 and there is now 170 miles on the tank.  8 clicks or 5 miles to Chicoutimi and the gas station.  Will the 850 make it.  I will admit I'm now a little light on the throttle.  I can see the Ultramar.  I pull in with 175 miles on the odometer.  Wow!  It made it.
I start pumping.  The liters are spinning away.  20 liters, 25, 30 pump pump click.  I squeeze in the last little bit to top it off.  35 liters at the pump.  There it is.  I never thought it would make it.
We weren't screaming by any means today but it was a typical day on Quebec trails.  Sleds and riding vary from day to day but this I feel is a decent benchmark.
Jack & Sandi

A side bar for those who have an 850.
On our Christmas trip, the 850 seemed like it was getting decent gas mileage.  I know we don't buy these for mileage but I'm always curious how far will a tank bring me.  This year I purchased the BRP 15 liter aux Lynk tank.  So today I decided to ride until I ran out of gas.  The St Raymond to Chicoutimi is a good test area.  
This morning we topped off both sleds.  At Mt Apica with 118 miles so far, we put $30 (23 liters) in Sandi's 1200.  Nothing in mine.  I've got three bars on the gauge, 60 miles to the Sag in Chicoutimi and 15 liters for back up.
At 147 miles, the low gas light comes on.  OK, lets see how many miles the warning light gives me.  157 miles and still running.  167 still going.  We hit the intersection with 83 and there is now 170 miles on the tank.  8 clicks or 5 miles to Chicoutimi and the gas station.  Will the 850 make it.  I will admit I'm now a little light on the throttle.  I can see the Ultramar.  I pull in with 175 miles on the odometer.  Wow!  It made it.
I start pumping.  The liters are spinning away.  20 liters, 25, 30 pump pump click.  I squeeze in the last little bit to top it off.  35 liters at the pump.  There it is.  I never thought it would make it.
We weren't screaming by any means today but it was a typical day on Quebec trails.  Sleds and riding vary from day to day but this I feel is a decent benchmark.
Jack & Sandi

A side bar for those who have an 850.
On our Christmas trip, the 850 seemed like it was getting decent gas mileage.  I know we don't buy these for mileage but I'm always curious how far will a tank bring me.  This year I purchased the BRP 15 liter aux Lynk tank.  So today I decided to ride until I ran out of gas.  The St Raymond to Chicoutimi is a good test area.  
This morning we topped off both sleds.  At Mt Apica with 118 miles so far, we put $30 (23 liters) in Sandi's 1200.  Nothing in mine.  I've got three bars on the gauge, 60 miles to the Sag in Chicoutimi and 15 liters for back up.
At 147 miles, the low gas light comes on.  OK, lets see how many miles the warning light gives me.  157 miles and still running.  167 still going.  We hit the intersection with 83 and there is now 170 miles on the tank.  8 clicks or 5 miles to Chicoutimi and the gas station.  Will the 850 make it.  I will admit I'm now a little light on the throttle.  I can see the Ultramar.  I pull in with 175 miles on the odometer.  Wow!  It made it.
I start pumping.  The liters are spinning away.  20 liters, 25, 30 pump pump click.  I squeeze in the last little bit to top it off.  35 liters at the pump.  There it is.  I never thought it would make it.
We weren't screaming by any means today but it was a typical day on Quebec trails.  Sleds and riding vary from day to day but this I feel is a decent benchmark.
Jack & Sandi

Come on up Phil.  The riding is great.  The forecast is for a slight warm up, right around freezing, for the weekend but it shouldn't hurt the trails.
Jack & Sandi

You are on a good machine but I see you are riding solo and it is your first ride in Quebec.  You know your abilities better than anybody else.  I have no idea what your experience is but services are far apart and cell phones don't always pick up a tower out there.  Stay in touch.
Jack & Sandi

RR, Early Rider and their gang definitely fall into the 1% ers.  Cheers to them and the posts and pics they give us - so we don't have to.
Jack & Sandi

RR, Early Rider and their gang definitely fall into the 1% ers.  Cheers to them and the posts and pics they give us - so we don't have to.
Jack & Sandi

Hi Fredsleds.  There are many trails / routes to get you to the tower.  You can check the groomer map the morning of the ride and see what was groomed.
Jack & Sandi

Miles Long
whats your background?
you have many of us following your thread very uneasy.......
Please enlighten us to put us as ease😮

Extra fuel and a GOOD tow strap, a sense of humor, half the clothes and twice the money...

Our hats off to all the groomers that but in the endless hours to make our sport more enjoyable!  Thank you and cheers 
Jack & Sandi

Another summer has gone by and here we are at the Sagueneenne.  Vacation is good!
Sandi woke up at 3:30 AM to check the truck and sleds.  She likes to look outside a few times a night to make sure nothing is going on.  This time she yells to me "FIRE".  Oh no.  I jump out of bed and there are two tents to park the snowmobiles in.  The tent next to the one our sleds are in is on fire.  Black smoke billowing out from the rear corner.  I call the front desk and jump into my clothes.  I go to the front desk for the key to the tent our sleds are in.  The night manager is on the phone with the fire department.  He hands me the key.  As I come back thru our room, Sandi hands me the snowmobile keys and keys for the locks.
Our tent is not burning but the one next to it is flaming.  The smell of burning gasoline and plastic is in the air.  Inside our tent is lit up by the flames.  There is only about five feet between the tents.  I get the door open and our two sleds out safely.  The fire trucks roll in and the firemen get into the burning tent.  I look in and see what is left to one snowmobile in the back corner.  Just a pile of rubble on the ground.  Next to it are two more sleds fully engulfed in the fire.  It looks like there is one more sled and a ski-boose at the other end off the tent that are OK.  The firemen put out the fire.  The police are also here.
A big thanks to the firemen.  Very quick response.  If the fire spread to the second tent, there were ten sleds in it but those are not touched.  What a way to start the season.
We are going out for our first ride in  a few hours.  We will post back later.
Jack & Sandi
 

Hi everyone.  Today is our last day to ride for this trip.  It snowed a little again last, 2".  It is 5F.  Nice way to start the ride.
We leave the Sag and head west on 83.  We stop at the Delta and yes the Gutz boys made it.  We chat with them and decide where to go.  It is the holiday today and places may be closed like we found out yesterday.  The receptionist is nice enough to make a phone call for us.  No answer at Mt Apica.  Scratch that idea.  How about Ski Bee Doo.  She calls them.  Again, no answer.  Lets try one more, Relais des Lacs.  She calls and someone answers.  She is told they are open until 4 PM.  That is great.  We are looking for a lunch stop.
We take off on 383 and cross the two bridges and then turn right on 134.  At 93 we turn left.  The trails are good.  Again there isn't much traffic out.  We run thru St Ambroise to 554 and ride up to Relais des Lacs.  Yes, they are open.  There are a couple of sleds and a few cars in the lot and it is just before noon.
After lunch we run out 328 to L'Ascension to tank up.  We continue on 328 to 93 and turn left toward Alma.  The trails are OK.  We didn't see anything that was groomed last night but the traffic has been light this week so the only bad areas are near the bigger towns.  We ride 93 to St Ambroise and turn right on 367 to cross the bridges.  At the bridges, we bid the Gutz team goodbye and go our separate way.
A nice way to end the trip.  Today, no problems, no one falling off the trail and no break downs.  Sandi just looked out in the parking lot and our truck and two sleds are the only vehicles on this side of the hotel.  Come on up folks.  There is plenty of snow, grooming is on going (other than the holiday) and the traffic is light.
We are planning our next trip for Martin Luther King weekend.  See you then.
Jack & Sandi

Hi everyone.  Today is our last day to ride for this trip.  It snowed a little again last, 2".  It is 5F.  Nice way to start the ride.
We leave the Sag and head west on 83.  We stop at the Delta and yes the Gutz boys made it.  We chat with them and decide where to go.  It is the holiday today and places may be closed like we found out yesterday.  The receptionist is nice enough to make a phone call for us.  No answer at Mt Apica.  Scratch that idea.  How about Ski Bee Doo.  She calls them.  Again, no answer.  Lets try one more, Relais des Lacs.  She calls and someone answers.  She is told they are open until 4 PM.  That is great.  We are looking for a lunch stop.
We take off on 383 and cross the two bridges and then turn right on 134.  At 93 we turn left.  The trails are good.  Again there isn't much traffic out.  We run thru St Ambroise to 554 and ride up to Relais des Lacs.  Yes, they are open.  There are a couple of sleds and a few cars in the lot and it is just before noon.
After lunch we run out 328 to L'Ascension to tank up.  We continue on 328 to 93 and turn left toward Alma.  The trails are OK.  We didn't see anything that was groomed last night but the traffic has been light this week so the only bad areas are near the bigger towns.  We ride 93 to St Ambroise and turn right on 367 to cross the bridges.  At the bridges, we bid the Gutz team goodbye and go our separate way.
A nice way to end the trip.  Today, no problems, no one falling off the trail and no break downs.  Sandi just looked out in the parking lot and our truck and two sleds are the only vehicles on this side of the hotel.  Come on up folks.  There is plenty of snow, grooming is on going (other than the holiday) and the traffic is light.
We are planning our next trip for Martin Luther King weekend.  See you then.
Jack & Sandi

Hi everyone.  Today is our last day to ride for this trip.  It snowed a little again last, 2".  It is 5F.  Nice way to start the ride.
We leave the Sag and head west on 83.  We stop at the Delta and yes the Gutz boys made it.  We chat with them and decide where to go.  It is the holiday today and places may be closed like we found out yesterday.  The receptionist is nice enough to make a phone call for us.  No answer at Mt Apica.  Scratch that idea.  How about Ski Bee Doo.  She calls them.  Again, no answer.  Lets try one more, Relais des Lacs.  She calls and someone answers.  She is told they are open until 4 PM.  That is great.  We are looking for a lunch stop.
We take off on 383 and cross the two bridges and then turn right on 134.  At 93 we turn left.  The trails are good.  Again there isn't much traffic out.  We run thru St Ambroise to 554 and ride up to Relais des Lacs.  Yes, they are open.  There are a couple of sleds and a few cars in the lot and it is just before noon.
After lunch we run out 328 to L'Ascension to tank up.  We continue on 328 to 93 and turn left toward Alma.  The trails are OK.  We didn't see anything that was groomed last night but the traffic has been light this week so the only bad areas are near the bigger towns.  We ride 93 to St Ambroise and turn right on 367 to cross the bridges.  At the bridges, we bid the Gutz team goodbye and go our separate way.
A nice way to end the trip.  Today, no problems, no one falling off the trail and no break downs.  Sandi just looked out in the parking lot and our truck and two sleds are the only vehicles on this side of the hotel.  Come on up folks.  There is plenty of snow, grooming is on going (other than the holiday) and the traffic is light.
We are planning our next trip for Martin Luther King weekend.  See you then.
Jack & Sandi

Hi everyone.  Today is our last day to ride for this trip.  It snowed a little again last, 2".  It is 5F.  Nice way to start the ride.
We leave the Sag and head west on 83.  We stop at the Delta and yes the Gutz boys made it.  We chat with them and decide where to go.  It is the holiday today and places may be closed like we found out yesterday.  The receptionist is nice enough to make a phone call for us.  No answer at Mt Apica.  Scratch that idea.  How about Ski Bee Doo.  She calls them.  Again, no answer.  Lets try one more, Relais des Lacs.  She calls and someone answers.  She is told they are open until 4 PM.  That is great.  We are looking for a lunch stop.
We take off on 383 and cross the two bridges and then turn right on 134.  At 93 we turn left.  The trails are good.  Again there isn't much traffic out.  We run thru St Ambroise to 554 and ride up to Relais des Lacs.  Yes, they are open.  There are a couple of sleds and a few cars in the lot and it is just before noon.
After lunch we run out 328 to L'Ascension to tank up.  We continue on 328 to 93 and turn left toward Alma.  The trails are OK.  We didn't see anything that was groomed last night but the traffic has been light this week so the only bad areas are near the bigger towns.  We ride 93 to St Ambroise and turn right on 367 to cross the bridges.  At the bridges, we bid the Gutz team goodbye and go our separate way.
A nice way to end the trip.  Today, no problems, no one falling off the trail and no break downs.  Sandi just looked out in the parking lot and our truck and two sleds are the only vehicles on this side of the hotel.  Come on up folks.  There is plenty of snow, grooming is on going (other than the holiday) and the traffic is light.
We are planning our next trip for Martin Luther King weekend.  See you then.
Jack & Sandi

Hi everyone.  Today is our last day to ride for this trip.  It snowed a little again last, 2".  It is 5F.  Nice way to start the ride.
We leave the Sag and head west on 83.  We stop at the Delta and yes the Gutz boys made it.  We chat with them and decide where to go.  It is the holiday today and places may be closed like we found out yesterday.  The receptionist is nice enough to make a phone call for us.  No answer at Mt Apica.  Scratch that idea.  How about Ski Bee Doo.  She calls them.  Again, no answer.  Lets try one more, Relais des Lacs.  She calls and someone answers.  She is told they are open until 4 PM.  That is great.  We are looking for a lunch stop.
We take off on 383 and cross the two bridges and then turn right on 134.  At 93 we turn left.  The trails are good.  Again there isn't much traffic out.  We run thru St Ambroise to 554 and ride up to Relais des Lacs.  Yes, they are open.  There are a couple of sleds and a few cars in the lot and it is just before noon.
After lunch we run out 328 to L'Ascension to tank up.  We continue on 328 to 93 and turn left toward Alma.  The trails are OK.  We didn't see anything that was groomed last night but the traffic has been light this week so the only bad areas are near the bigger towns.  We ride 93 to St Ambroise and turn right on 367 to cross the bridges.  At the bridges, we bid the Gutz team goodbye and go our separate way.
A nice way to end the trip.  Today, no problems, no one falling off the trail and no break downs.  Sandi just looked out in the parking lot and our truck and two sleds are the only vehicles on this side of the hotel.  Come on up folks.  There is plenty of snow, grooming is on going (other than the holiday) and the traffic is light.
We are planning our next trip for Martin Luther King weekend.  See you then.
Jack & Sandi

Hi everyone.  Today is our last day to ride for this trip.  It snowed a little again last, 2".  It is 5F.  Nice way to start the ride.
We leave the Sag and head west on 83.  We stop at the Delta and yes the Gutz boys made it.  We chat with them and decide where to go.  It is the holiday today and places may be closed like we found out yesterday.  The receptionist is nice enough to make a phone call for us.  No answer at Mt Apica.  Scratch that idea.  How about Ski Bee Doo.  She calls them.  Again, no answer.  Lets try one more, Relais des Lacs.  She calls and someone answers.  She is told they are open until 4 PM.  That is great.  We are looking for a lunch stop.
We take off on 383 and cross the two bridges and then turn right on 134.  At 93 we turn left.  The trails are good.  Again there isn't much traffic out.  We run thru St Ambroise to 554 and ride up to Relais des Lacs.  Yes, they are open.  There are a couple of sleds and a few cars in the lot and it is just before noon.
After lunch we run out 328 to L'Ascension to tank up.  We continue on 328 to 93 and turn left toward Alma.  The trails are OK.  We didn't see anything that was groomed last night but the traffic has been light this week so the only bad areas are near the bigger towns.  We ride 93 to St Ambroise and turn right on 367 to cross the bridges.  At the bridges, we bid the Gutz team goodbye and go our separate way.
A nice way to end the trip.  Today, no problems, no one falling off the trail and no break downs.  Sandi just looked out in the parking lot and our truck and two sleds are the only vehicles on this side of the hotel.  Come on up folks.  There is plenty of snow, grooming is on going (other than the holiday) and the traffic is light.
We are planning our next trip for Martin Luther King weekend.  See you then.
Jack & Sandi

Today we are starting a little later.  We just feel a little lazy today.
There is 3-4" of fresh snow on the ground and it is still snowing some.  A little breezy so there may be some drifts.  We leave the Sag and head west on 83.  We ride by the Delta and give it a wave.  There is some drifting in the open fields but not much.  We cruise along and take the Local 7 up to 383 where we turn left.  383 is nice under the fresh snow making for a smooth ride.  No traffic out at all.  We stay on 383 but notice that the trail to St Charles is barely broke.  No signs for St Charles so I don't know if that crossing is open.  We continue on and the junction to Larouche has a couple of sled tracks but hasn't been groomed.  We stay to the left and drop down to 83.  Here we cross the corner of Lac Kenogami and pass Relais Grenoule.  We continue on picking up 23 and run up to Ski Bee Doo for lunch.  Oh no.  That is what we were afraid of, it is closed for New Years Day.  It is going to be hit or miss today.
23 is in great shape.  We keep heading north into Alma and cross the river on the snowmobile / car bridge.  We turn right on 93.  This was in great shape yesterday and is still very good.  We turn left on Local 554 and go to Relais des Lacs.  Again, closed for today.  
We continue on 328 but when we turn right towards Begin, the trail is just barely broke.  This doesn't look like fun.  Time to u-turn and head back down 554 to 93.  Good choice.  Much better than beating ourselves up on 328.
We stay on 93 thru St Ambroise and turn right on 367.  At the camp ground, the trail has been plowed.  There is still a bit of snow on it but also dirt and rocks.  A little ways past the campground the trail drops down and runs thru a sparsely treed area.  Ah ha!  The groomer must have gotten stuck in here.  The drag is parked on the side of the trail and the trail is a mess.  It looks like the club must have come in with a big piece of equipment to pull the groomer out.
After this mess, the trail is good again.  We run back to the two bridges and head back to the hotel.  No lunch today but a nice ride.  We only saw a few sleds out and the trails were good.  One more day to ride and then it is time to load up and head back to CT.
Jack & Sandi

Today we are starting a little later.  We just feel a little lazy today.
There is 3-4" of fresh snow on the ground and it is still snowing some.  A little breezy so there may be some drifts.  We leave the Sag and head west on 83.  We ride by the Delta and give it a wave.  There is some drifting in the open fields but not much.  We cruise along and take the Local 7 up to 383 where we turn left.  383 is nice under the fresh snow making for a smooth ride.  No traffic out at all.  We stay on 383 but notice that the trail to St Charles is barely broke.  No signs for St Charles so I don't know if that crossing is open.  We continue on and the junction to Larouche has a couple of sled tracks but hasn't been groomed.  We stay to the left and drop down to 83.  Here we cross the corner of Lac Kenogami and pass Relais Grenoule.  We continue on picking up 23 and run up to Ski Bee Doo for lunch.  Oh no.  That is what we were afraid of, it is closed for New Years Day.  It is going to be hit or miss today.
23 is in great shape.  We keep heading north into Alma and cross the river on the snowmobile / car bridge.  We turn right on 93.  This was in great shape yesterday and is still very good.  We turn left on Local 554 and go to Relais des Lacs.  Again, closed for today.  
We continue on 328 but when we turn right towards Begin, the trail is just barely broke.  This doesn't look like fun.  Time to u-turn and head back down 554 to 93.  Good choice.  Much better than beating ourselves up on 328.
We stay on 93 thru St Ambroise and turn right on 367.  At the camp ground, the trail has been plowed.  There is still a bit of snow on it but also dirt and rocks.  A little ways past the campground the trail drops down and runs thru a sparsely treed area.  Ah ha!  The groomer must have gotten stuck in here.  The drag is parked on the side of the trail and the trail is a mess.  It looks like the club must have come in with a big piece of equipment to pull the groomer out.
After this mess, the trail is good again.  We run back to the two bridges and head back to the hotel.  No lunch today but a nice ride.  We only saw a few sleds out and the trails were good.  One more day to ride and then it is time to load up and head back to CT.
Jack & Sandi

Hi Mac Builder.  Welcome to QuebecRider.
The most direct route from St Raymond to the Delta is 23, 368 then 383 and 83.  This will be about 190 miles.
Jack & Sandi

Today we are starting a little later.  We just feel a little lazy today.
There is 3-4" of fresh snow on the ground and it is still snowing some.  A little breezy so there may be some drifts.  We leave the Sag and head west on 83.  We ride by the Delta and give it a wave.  There is some drifting in the open fields but not much.  We cruise along and take the Local 7 up to 383 where we turn left.  383 is nice under the fresh snow making for a smooth ride.  No traffic out at all.  We stay on 383 but notice that the trail to St Charles is barely broke.  No signs for St Charles so I don't know if that crossing is open.  We continue on and the junction to Larouche has a couple of sled tracks but hasn't been groomed.  We stay to the left and drop down to 83.  Here we cross the corner of Lac Kenogami and pass Relais Grenoule.  We continue on picking up 23 and run up to Ski Bee Doo for lunch.  Oh no.  That is what we were afraid of, it is closed for New Years Day.  It is going to be hit or miss today.
23 is in great shape.  We keep heading north into Alma and cross the river on the snowmobile / car bridge.  We turn right on 93.  This was in great shape yesterday and is still very good.  We turn left on Local 554 and go to Relais des Lacs.  Again, closed for today.  
We continue on 328 but when we turn right towards Begin, the trail is just barely broke.  This doesn't look like fun.  Time to u-turn and head back down 554 to 93.  Good choice.  Much better than beating ourselves up on 328.
We stay on 93 thru St Ambroise and turn right on 367.  At the camp ground, the trail has been plowed.  There is still a bit of snow on it but also dirt and rocks.  A little ways past the campground the trail drops down and runs thru a sparsely treed area.  Ah ha!  The groomer must have gotten stuck in here.  The drag is parked on the side of the trail and the trail is a mess.  It looks like the club must have come in with a big piece of equipment to pull the groomer out.
After this mess, the trail is good again.  We run back to the two bridges and head back to the hotel.  No lunch today but a nice ride.  We only saw a few sleds out and the trails were good.  One more day to ride and then it is time to load up and head back to CT.
Jack & Sandi

Today we are starting a little later.  We just feel a little lazy today.
There is 3-4" of fresh snow on the ground and it is still snowing some.  A little breezy so there may be some drifts.  We leave the Sag and head west on 83.  We ride by the Delta and give it a wave.  There is some drifting in the open fields but not much.  We cruise along and take the Local 7 up to 383 where we turn left.  383 is nice under the fresh snow making for a smooth ride.  No traffic out at all.  We stay on 383 but notice that the trail to St Charles is barely broke.  No signs for St Charles so I don't know if that crossing is open.  We continue on and the junction to Larouche has a couple of sled tracks but hasn't been groomed.  We stay to the left and drop down to 83.  Here we cross the corner of Lac Kenogami and pass Relais Grenoule.  We continue on picking up 23 and run up to Ski Bee Doo for lunch.  Oh no.  That is what we were afraid of, it is closed for New Years Day.  It is going to be hit or miss today.
23 is in great shape.  We keep heading north into Alma and cross the river on the snowmobile / car bridge.  We turn right on 93.  This was in great shape yesterday and is still very good.  We turn left on Local 554 and go to Relais des Lacs.  Again, closed for today.  
We continue on 328 but when we turn right towards Begin, the trail is just barely broke.  This doesn't look like fun.  Time to u-turn and head back down 554 to 93.  Good choice.  Much better than beating ourselves up on 328.
We stay on 93 thru St Ambroise and turn right on 367.  At the camp ground, the trail has been plowed.  There is still a bit of snow on it but also dirt and rocks.  A little ways past the campground the trail drops down and runs thru a sparsely treed area.  Ah ha!  The groomer must have gotten stuck in here.  The drag is parked on the side of the trail and the trail is a mess.  It looks like the club must have come in with a big piece of equipment to pull the groomer out.
After this mess, the trail is good again.  We run back to the two bridges and head back to the hotel.  No lunch today but a nice ride.  We only saw a few sleds out and the trails were good.  One more day to ride and then it is time to load up and head back to CT.
Jack & Sandi

OK.  I meant to talk about the 850 but supper was calling.
Now this isn't to turn the thread into this sled vs that sled.  I try to keep my reports about the trail conditions.  This is for all those that are wondering how the Gen-4 850 is.  We have a Gen-4 850 Renegade X.  It replaced my 800 E-tec Renegade Adrenaline.  Yes Dave the 850 was the first sled out of the tent during the fire.  It just happened to be closer to the door than Sandi's sled.  
With only one day on the 850, I can say if you liked your 800 E-tec, you won't be disappointed with the 850.  In my humble opinion, the Gen-4 handles and rides better than the 800.  The suspension feels more balanced from front to rear.  It is peppier and does pull very smooth.  I won't say anymore because I just don't have many miles on it.
Until tomorrow's ride, good night.
Jack & Sandi