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And that electric powered groomer is on the way

And that electric powered groomer is on the way

Problem is also you have to or at least I can't run in some one else's track so everyone is breaking their own trail. I hate slush even if I know there is a lot of ice under you. Great ride you guys did. Also some of the best trails to ride. Great report also. 

Thanks for the advice.  I  wore it first time today.  There is going to be a getting use to it period.  I didn't wear my glasses today because I was just trying to get the feel of the helmet.  First I couldn't believe how hot it gets in side. The extra vision you get is great.  There is no noise to be heard.  All and all I really like it a lot. I'll try your advice tomorrow.  Last day up here for now.  Had a good ride even though we got into a storm yesterday.  Thanks 

Was last year and sure still is the center trail on map A, the orange trail,  Is just amazing. Also a great club house on 373 to stop at. The whole area is great. 

Was last year and sure still is the center trail on map A, the orange trail,  Is just amazing. Also a great club house on 373 to stop at. The whole area is great. 

Was last year and sure still is the center trail on map A, the orange trail,  Is just amazing. Also a great club house on 373 to stop at. The whole area is great. 

What I read tonight, ZEC,  is a group of people that was put in charge of this area to regulate the hunting and fishing,  Mainly because it was regulated by clubs that were private people, some not even Canadians , who were over hunting and fishing game and poaching.  They began as non profit and raising money's from hunting and fishermen. After finding out the money's weren't enough they were given the charge of camper, hikers and any one else using the park. Now I think they may be just trying to find another influx of money's to continue on. They were said to be the greatest organization for their work.

I'm not going to say I know where the exact area of the park is because I don't know.  What I would like to know is what trails it effects. My kid loves the 93 trail on the east side of the river and does it effect that one and all the orange trails east and north of 93. I have never rode the orange trails i would love to some day.  I have just heard so many great stories about this areas. 

What expense does the parks have in the game they are playing.  Do they pay for any grooming.  I can see them saying there is damage done in the off trail areas but the trail riders shouldn't be penalized.  Do they have them do as I say not as I do people like we have in the Adirondacks.  Taking away our sport.  

I hate keeping posts about this problem IMO but I have been reading a lot about this organization.  It was created in 1978 by the government of Canada or maybe Quebec to watch over the hunting and fishing areas.  They were created to be non profit.  So what I believe is the best way to approach  this matter is through getting political people involved.  Simply let the politicians know that people are not happy.  I'm sure they are the same as in the states that every vote counts.  I know I from the states but my money counts. May be a large amount of signatures.  Only an idea. May take a year to get results. 
 

I ride with my kid and 2 or 3 of his buddies.  We had one who wouldn't listen and said no problem he won't get cold.  20 below and he got frost bite on his fore head.  My land they laughed him. So me being the adult I bought him a big wind shield for the next trip.  Now all was said was your sled is ugly.  He took it with a smile and said no more frost bite.  He doesn't use it around home but when going to Quebec it's on his sled for sure.  It's amazing the mean things they say to each other and just laugh. 

Should the other Zec's be contacted about their intentions or would that be opening up a can of worms. This could be a start of the end. I don't want go back to Tug Hill. 

I didn't know that.  I'm not being difficult I just never heard Anything about it. It really does scare me about the future of trail riding in quebec.  I do think before this is over the business people will get involved.  I hope. 

I believe that this is a organization who doesn't want snowmobiles on any land they thing they have or do have control of.  I believe to them this is the beginning of them ending the snowmobiles on pubic land. You must understand they are saving the environment. Or they don't ride snowmobiles and don't want anyone else to.  
    How long will it be before more of the parks join in. 
   
 
 

Even if they put your sled out side it will be melted off. Better than a block of ice. My opinion 

I believe that this is a organization who doesn't want snowmobiles on any land they thing they have or do have control of.  I believe to them this is the beginning of them ending the snowmobiles on pubic land. You must understand they are saving the environment. Or they don't ride snowmobiles and don't want anyone else to.  
    How long will it be before more of the parks join in. 
   
 
 

I believe that this is a organization who doesn't want snowmobiles on any land they thing they have or do have control of.  I believe to them this is the beginning of them ending the snowmobiles on pubic land. You must understand they are saving the environment. Or they don't ride snowmobiles and don't want anyone else to.  
    How long will it be before more of the parks join in. 
   
 
 

I believe that this is a organization who doesn't want snowmobiles on any land they thing they have or do have control of.  I believe to them this is the beginning of them ending the snowmobiles on pubic land. You must understand they are saving the environment. Or they don't ride snowmobiles and don't want anyone else to.  
    How long will it be before more of the parks join in. 
   
 
 

I'm not trying to blame the snowmobile.  I'm blaming the part of the snowmobile that is doing the damage.  The gun using bullets is bad but the gun using blanks just makes noise. The sled using 3 inch lugs let's you get in a position to do damage where a sled with a 1.5 lug won't let you get in to that position.  I do agree it's operator stupidity but trail sled operators usually stay on the trail .

And yes if you used a 1 inch fork instead of a 3 inch fork you would eat less.  Lol

And yes if you used a 1 inch fork instead of a 3 inch fork you would eat less.  Lol

What I read tonight, ZEC,  is a group of people that was put in charge of this area to regulate the hunting and fishing,  Mainly because it was regulated by clubs that were private people, some not even Canadians , who were over hunting and fishing game and poaching.  They began as non profit and raising money's from hunting and fishermen. After finding out the money's weren't enough they were given the charge of camper, hikers and any one else using the park. Now I think they may be just trying to find another influx of money's to continue on. They were said to be the greatest organization for their work.

What I read tonight, ZEC,  is a group of people that was put in charge of this area to regulate the hunting and fishing,  Mainly because it was regulated by clubs that were private people, some not even Canadians , who were over hunting and fishing game and poaching.  They began as non profit and raising money's from hunting and fishermen. After finding out the money's weren't enough they were given the charge of camper, hikers and any one else using the park. Now I think they may be just trying to find another influx of money's to continue on. They were said to be the greatest organization for their work.

Even if they put your sled out side it will be melted off. Better than a block of ice. My opinion