NSHM Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 For those of us touring in Quebec, a two-stroke is more of a liability than an asset. The smell, carrying oil, longevity, etc makes a four-stroke a no-brainier. X2 on the smell! I can't even stand to ride behind one with the new oil they are running.I can smell em when they go past in the other direction and can smell em when I am coming up on them from behind from about a half mile out.And the warmer it is the worse they smell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smclelan Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 For those of us touring in Quebec, a two-stroke is more of a liability than an asset. The smell, carrying oil, longevity, etc makes a four-stroke a no-brainier. X2 100%!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbo Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 X2 100%!! Blah, Blah, BLAH!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smclelan Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Blah, Blah, BLAH!! Hi there Smoky!! Hopefully Belarus......whoops Polaris will make a competitive 4 stroke soon !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
182ray Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) Hi TimboDon't let the 4 poke bullies get to you.What makes me laugh about these guys is how they crow about not having to carry oil but most of them now carry GAS!!! Can you say kaboom???I can saddle bag with out carrying oil or gas.I'm putting down my deposit on a new 850 Renegade X this week.Yours trulyOily smelling 152 Ray PS the odo pic is when my time bomb hit 7,000 miles last week & guess what? it didn't blow up...must have a long fuse Edited March 15, 2016 by 182ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstraw Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Hi Timbo Don't let the 4 poke bullies get to you. What makes me laugh about these guys is how they crow about not having to carry oil but most of them now carry GAS!!! Can you say kaboom??? I can saddle bag with out carrying oil or gas. I'm putting down my deposit on a new 850 Renegade X this week. Yours truly Oily smelling 152 Ray PS the odo pic is when my time bomb hit 7,000 miles last week & guess what? it didn't blow up...must have a long fuse Tic, Tic, Tic, Tic You don't need to carry gas your not bagging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganRev Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Hi Timbo Don't let the 4 poke bullies get to you. What makes me laugh about these guys is how they crow about not having to carry oil but most of them now carry GAS!!! Can you say kaboom??? I can saddle bag with out carrying oil or gas. I'm putting down my deposit on a new 850 Renegade X this week. Yours truly Oily smelling 152 Ray PS the odo pic is when my time bomb hit 7,000 miles last week & guess what? it didn't blow up...must have a long fuse You tell'em Ray!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revct1 Posted March 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 OK - 13,400 miles on the 2014 800 and there was 15,600 miles on the 2011 800 when I traded that one in. No kaboom. Maybe I'm due but it has been a long time. There might be an 850 in the stable next season. And yes, my 2 smoke does get a little better gas mileage than Sandi's 4 poke. Jack & Sandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smclelan Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 I spoke to the DSM (district sales manager) for BRP this afternoon, he was telling me some pretty impressive facts about the new 850. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpionbowl Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 I spoke to the DSM (district sales manager) for BRP this afternoon, he was telling me some pretty impressive facts about the new 850. Yeah, instead of melting down at 10k miles they will at 8k, big improvement for parts and service profit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northbound Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 Jack, I would have won that bet! Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailblazer Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 OK - 13,400 miles on the 2014 800 and there was 15,600 miles on the 2011 800 when I traded that one in. No kaboom. Maybe I'm due but it has been a long time. There might be an 850 in the stable next season. And yes, my 2 smoke does get a little better gas mileage than Sandi's 4 poke. Jack & Sandi You're one of the lucky ones Jack but given you're always following Sandy those must lady miles eh and not taped miles lol lol. The 2 strokes have gotten a lot more fuel efficient and in some levels even better than the 4 strokes I give you that but when you factor in the substantial cost of the injection oil it significantly increases the cost of fuel consumption. A BRP rep at the Sneak Peak this week was telling us this new engine will burn 40% less oil than the 800 ETech and it supposed to be quite the arm ripper too. He was convincing enough for one of my local riding partners to put in an order for a new Gade 850. We shall see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
182ray Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 JG you gotta ride with Sandy one time...you will be eating those "lady miles" words besides crying "aunt" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im4snow Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 Hi Timbo Don't let the 4 poke bullies get to you. What makes me laugh about these guys is how they crow about not having to carry oil but most of them now carry GAS!!! Can you say kaboom??? I can saddle bag with out carrying oil or gas. I'm putting down my deposit on a new 850 Renegade X this week. Yours truly Oily smelling 152 Ray PS the odo pic is when my time bomb hit 7,000 miles last week & guess what? it didn't blow up...must have a long fuse That's awesome. Good luck with the new sled. And there's nothing quite like the sweet smell of 2S exhaust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momojohnny Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 That's awesome. Good luck with the new sled. And there's nothing quite like the sweet smell of 2S exhaust. Saying around here is, " they are all fun when they run" Ive towed in a few 4 banger's in my day All color's, including this winter. Ok Tom, your turn I know you've got one of me on the rope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
182ray Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 Saying around here is, " they are all fun when they run" Ive towed in a few 4 banger's in my day All color's, including this winter. Ok Tom, your turn I know you've got one of me on the rope I'm having this picture framed...thanks Mike!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Snowman Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 Saying around here is, " they are all fun when they run" Ive towed in a few 4 banger's in my day All color's, including this winter. Ok Tom, your turn I know you've got one of me on the rope LOL Michael. I'm not as quick with the hall of shame photos as some other warlocks on this site! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vt_bluyamaha54 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Hi Timbo Don't let the 4 poke bullies get to you. What makes me laugh about these guys is how they crow about not having to carry oil but most of them now carry GAS!!! Can you say kaboom??? I can saddle bag with out carrying oil or gas. I'm putting down my deposit on a new 850 Renegade X this week. Yours truly Oily smelling 152 Ray PS the odo pic is when my time bomb hit 7,000 miles last week & guess what? it didn't blow up...must have a long fuse Ray - did the BRP folks say they've fixed the starters for the 850s or do you still need the trusty rope on the clutch trick? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
182ray Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Ken the 850 may come with a recoil starter so I don't have to perfect my rope around the primary technique Or if it doesn't that will be the first accessory I'll add Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikerider Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Ray, I'm getting the orange 850, so pick another color. I have been waiting for a Moto Ski revival sled now for like 45 years. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
182ray Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Mike you didn't mind when Ginger had the same color sled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikerider Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Ginger and I had a his and hers sleds. Ginger will have to ride your orange X when I'm around just to keep up the tradition. In reality, Ginger is safe, I'm keeping the 900 another year. Unless the lotto is good to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revct1 Posted March 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Ray - did the BRP folks say they've fixed the starters for the 850s or do you still need the trusty rope on the clutch trick? LOL Yes BRP did address the starter issue. The ring gear is now on the mag side of the motor instead of the clutch side. Time will tell whether it works or not. Jack & Sandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vt_bluyamaha54 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Hi Jack - Most of the folks with starter issues on the 800 seem to have bad starters. Which side of the engine the ring gear is on won't fix a bad starter motor unless they believe it is a heat issue + BRP is able to reduce the heat from the exhaust by changing the mounting location/ring gear location (???) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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