MrsGTRider

the FQCQ (quad federation) publish how the right of access fee is spend with percentage for each spent and there's no ZECs fees appearing, I had not found any official sources confirming that it is money involved but some unofficials sources let me think it is possible.
I want to explain a bit why FQCQ have this agreement: first, you shouldn't think that quad riders had it easy, their trail system network began to develop in the 90s and it's just in 2017 they managed to get this agreement with the ZEC federation, more than 20 years later!!! They had the problem with the ZECS every summer, the quad riders had to pay their right of acces in several zecs to arrive at their destination and start over again the next day when returning back home if they sleep on the trip. It terribly limited tourism and the development of their trail network.
To get the 2017 agreement, there were 14 months of intense negotiations between the 2 federations and the Zecs federation had consulted the 30 concerned Zecs (the one that federated quad trails crossed) before reaching an agreement.
In the case of snowmobiles trails, we have been crossing many ZECs since the 70s and the snowmobile clubs had always managed to get along with the ZECs in the last 50 years, until this year with Martin-Valin...it's a first case , it is perhaps normal that it was not at the top of the list of concerns for FCMQ, but that has just changed.
The reason that lead to FQCQ-ZECs agreement also apply to us: federated trails are the main drive belt that transport tourism(read $$$) between regions through all the Quebec province, especially the snowmobile trails in many remote areas but don't expect the FCMQ-Fédération ZECs agreement process to be quick, easy or already win... 
At least actually the cat is out of the bag and sledders are starting to understand what is really going on with this ZEC and the possible impacts on our entire trail system. I hope that the public pressure will lead to some political pressure to support the FCMQ in their requests to solve that issue... I think they will need it.

The temperature she go up, the temperature she go down. 
We are a few days into the tour, neglected to write. Left Oliphant on the 15th, 2 McKenzies 2 Moores, 10hr drive to Mont Laurier temperature +9. drove through rain and fog. Woke up to -6 headed north to 100 lacs. Trails choppy and icy to Ferme-nerve. Stoped at Mount Diablo, only three sleds there on February 16, hard to believe. North to 100 lacs perfect, stopped for lunch St Anne du Lacs for lunch and fuel. Somebody got stuck, not mentioning any names (mrs). 
Woke up -17, she go down, 25 cm of snow. Great service from the folks at 100 Lacs, machines dusted off for us. Headed south towards Rabaska lodge, but no reservations, OOPS. Ended up getting a spot at Club Fontbrune, nice place excellent staff. Woke up to -24, headed back to Mont Laurier. Scott shut off his machine before crossing river, would not restart, starter problems we think. Towed back to dealership, only 2 Km, new battery no luck. Down to rental office, Expedition available, sans turbo. Back to trailer loaded up and off to Iceland to see Reggie at Drakkar to meet up with the boy from Nova Scotia. 
Just over freezing in the morning, unloaded and headed to Camp Taureau. Made a few wrong turns around Shawinigan, lots of traffic but trails were surprisingly good. Ran out of gas just before Carbanon on the boy’s sled. Somebody forgot to fill it up, someone about my size, also gas caddy empty, another OOPS(not me, Scott’s doing). 
+2 this morning ride back up to 100 lacs, light traffic,  trails 10 out of 10.  We were going to take the lakes up, good thing we didn’t snowing very heavy. Sun came out, and got starting to get cold, -15 come dark. Temperature she go down. 

Another fabulous day of riding!

Good to be back in RDL and riding with Mike!

But something was missing…

Myself and two friends completed a Clockwise Gaspe loop this past week. The three of us first did this trip in 1997. Hard to believe it's been 26 years. 300 mile days were the norm then, 200 is appropriate now. We unloaded in Monticello, Maine Tuesday the 7th, and rode to Fort Kent. Wednesday morning we crossed the border into New Brunswick and headed West until we grabbed the Quebec 561. This trail hadn't been done in a while, but was good going. We hit the 35 and made our way to Mont Joli, and stayed at the Quality Inn. Good trails and weather  all day. The next day we continued East  and stayed in Mont St Pierre at Le Delice. Good trails all day.  This place seems to have declined a bit  over the years. I never stayed at the other hotel, but I have understood that the Delice is nicer. Friday we continued East in light snow, trails were great , but the weather blocked some of the most beautiful scenery of  the peninsula .As we got out to the end of the peninsula, the snow became heavier, and visibility was poor. The snow became deeper in the trail. We headed into Riviere Au Renaud for fuel. The trail  through the long field is not staked and was invisible. Fortunately I had been there before, and my GPS showed us the trail. The trail into the gas station was completely drifted in. We decided not to risk that, and took the stump trail to the Caribou Inn. We were able to get a room, so we stopped there for a short day. We took the road up to the gas station for fuel and essencianial beverages. The food at the Caribou is very good, rooms are just ok. The next morning it was still snowing. It appeared that a total of pretty near a foot had fallen.  We hoped that the crew  of big sleds would break trail back out to  trail 5 for us, but they weren't moving. We decided to try it around 0900. We got out of there without issue, and trail 5 had been broken. We quickly rode out of the snow into Sunshine, and the trails were great. When we reached Chandler, my 2021 Viper threw a "C1600" alarm. We pulled into the Motel Chandler. It looked deserted. Beatrice came to the door, and I asked if I could use the wifi. A quick google search revealed the code had to do with an open circuit for the thumb warmer. Everything else worked , and all fuses were good. I was satisfied I could just run it. In the meantime, Beatrice called the dealer, who was closed on that Saturday afternoon. She was making other calls for us. By this time it was after three O'Clock. We had already determined that there were no rooms at two hotels we called in New Richmond. We decided to stay there. While we were enjoying a "Pepsi" in the room, Beatrice came to the room with information from one of her call backs regarding the thumb warmer, and to run it. The restaurant at the hotel was closed. Beatrice drove us to and from the Dixie Lee for supper. Very nice lady that went out of her way to help. We tipped her well. One other note about that Saturday. We rode into the Skidoo dealer in Gaspe around 10:30 to find it closed. No store hours were listed on the door, and three vehicles pulled into the parking lot apparently expecting it to be open. This suggests  that this is not the norm, but it wasn't very convenient either. We were able to get some Skidoo oil at the fuel stop in Grand Riviere. Sunday was breakfast on the trail at a club house, and spectacular trails all the way to Pointe-A-la-Croix. There is a poorly marked intersection just East of the city that can easily put you on the orange trail bypassing the city. We had a nice room and meal at the Interprovincial, and fell asleep with the Stupid Bowl tied at 35. Mundles towing took across the bridge after breakfast. New Brunswick 17 was  perfect for an hour or so. 37 Klick East of Kedgewick , the trails turned to junk for a couple hours. Disappointing after a nice week in Quebec. Probably just bad luck, but New Brunswick never seems to fail to disappoint. We crossed the border at Van Buran Maine, and zipped down to the Hampton Inn Presque Isle on good trails.  An Hour flat to the truck Tuesday morning . Stopped at the Yamaha dealer in Topsam, a Tech came out and separated the plug in the center of the handle bars, and determined no power going to the thumb warmer from the switch. This makes the switch suspect, with all fuses good. If anybody has ideas on that, I would appreciate it. Overall great trip. I don't get tired of that region. Some photos at the link below.
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Being a Saturday morning in northeast VT we had no intentions of staying stateside and dealing with the massacre of sleds we knew would be present,  we loaded up and headed for the border and customs crossing in Beecher Falls. A very late 11am start and 15 miles later we proceeded through customs with no issues. The 523 had been groomed a few days prior, but 3" of fresh snow and zero tracks awaited us. Snow level not high,  but no riders keeps these trails in perfect condition.  Good  cruising over the hill to Christmas tree farm in Hereford, we then take a right onto orange trail headed northeast towards border cut trail. Absolutely incredible this section,  super fast and smooth. Have to slow down on up and down and twisty section of border cut, but still good going. Groomer has a hard time smoothing this 5 mile or so section.  After passing  relais south of Bellefeuille, we are first tracking on fresh groomed up to the 525, then an easy run into little hamlet of LaPatrie. Nice lunch at Resto-Bar LaPatrie, gas up across street and point sleds in reverse direction for run back to camp. For ride back we stay on 525 west until we meet back up with the 523 just north of Sawyerville. This part is a great blend of farmland and wood roads that is super smooth and fast, and almost no traffic with the exception of lots of deer. Gotta keep an eye out for them in this area. The 523 south back to Hereford is a smooth ride as well, and we end up back through customs and back at camp in Averill with 150 really great miles. This area never ceases to amaze me with great trails and very rare meetings of other riders.  Not many pics, but a really nice short day's run.

Today turned out pretty nice considering the original forecast of rain and snow in the early afternoon.  Got a few miles out of town and it was nice and cold, mostly fresh groomed trails that were very hard and fast. Did a big loop going west and south. Coffee at the Explorers club and later lunch at the Adventure club.  Sun out more than in and stayed cold.
After lunch went over to the loop trail by Isle Verte. Had been seeing on the map there was a section showing no grooming this winter making the loop not possible. Sure enough, grooming ends by the island where they park the helicopter. So sad to loose this great section of trail.   A favorite loop.
130 miles and back by 1:30.
Finally picked up a new map for St. Laurent. Noticed a trail that looks like it leaves Quebec into New Brunswick and connects to their trail system. Going south on #35, few miles after Chevelier Frontier Club, there is a groomed trail going straight where #35 makes a left.   This used to go to a gas station many years ago and dead end. It now appears it connects to the N.B. tails system.   There are no signs at the intersection giving any advice. And it appears it is a hop and skip to the elusive Lac Baker,  (NB),  and the excellent restaurant there.  Also looks to be a short distance to the top of Maine.
4 PM and so far five minutes of sprinkles a couple hours ago.  Patches of clear sky showing now. Calling for rain and snow showers tonight, and tomorrow rain showers turning to snow and temps falling. A little more snow for Thursday night and Friday. Couple inches total.
mike
 

Bob, did you come to RDL couple weeks ago. looked for you but did not see you.
And GT Rider, remember, I want a table by the window at Lintinment Restaurant. Be great to see the both of you. If I am here, the key to the town and the truck is yours.
mike
 

Hi Guys and Gals,  I haven't sent out any contributing membership renewals in over a year. Some of you have renewed on your own, thank you. Instead of me going through over a years worth of PayPal statements in order to send renewals, I would appreciate it if you could renew on your own at the link below. Since some of you buy several CM's to help support the site, we now have 3 tiers. Silver, Gold and Platinum. We are still working out the specifics but the higher the tier, the less advertising and more storage space.
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We also haven't had paid advertisers since covid. I left them all up until today. If anyone know of any businesses that might benefit from advertising on QR please send them our way. There is an option on the menu from the Contributing Membership link above to purchase an ad.
Please let me know if you paid for a membership and I missed upgrading you account.
 
Thank you for your support.
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Day 3
 
Always sweet to wake up with 6-10 " of new and still snowing hard !   Return to trucks is easy enough it's about 160 miles. Surprisingly there's already traffic pounding the 355 .. and we were out by 8am
Seems corners in this heavier new stuff were tricky to a few that were ahead of us. Lots of interesting line choices seen in there tracks  😄
We stopped and helped a local guy that had is "titanic " sized sled pretty well submerged.  
From the lake crossing south typical 355 Lumpy bumpy under what is now 6" of wet mashed potatoes.  Take LT2. Better but every hill is whooped out.
73 Rail bed lots of fun .. Take the turn on the local that comes out at the Saint Raymond club house  .. mixed bag of my type of sweetness 😋          then fresh groom the last 5 miles into Saint Ray on the 23 
 
Chow for now 
Enjoy your rides ! 
 
TVT
 

Thanks Snowmaster! I think you will love your ride toward Gaspésia. I don't know if you had seen auberge grande Nature in St-Octave de l'avenir(near Cap-Chat) just at the foot of chic chocs but if not it worth the detour, for the view and more. If you decide to stay there and have the chance to get their scandinavian wood log cabin, it's one of the prettiest chalet I had chance to rent.
Thanks Mike! My friend Snowcruiser was thinking he had a train following behind at first! he felt he was just making shadow to me with is sled 😄 
You are welcome mccaffrey! It's the first time I go aftermarket for light on a sled, those gen4 are really weak stock... a good way for brp to sell more auxiliary light kits!
As a bonus because the weather and my equipment cooperate, I had been able to put together this video of the ride...
 

Here is our yesterday loop ride February 11 in Mauricie area

With perfect winter conditions, we left the Champlain area with our ride partner Snowcruiser and his friend Michel. Here on trail #351 along #40 highway #40 eastbound

At the first junction we passed under the highway via the local trail towards St-Luc de Vincennes. Here on a small bridge, not the prettiest but which does the job perfectly.

We joined #3 trail which we headed east

This sign above with the name of Claude Cosette piqued my curiosity and today I search a bit to find that he was a pioneer in the Champlain Snowmobile Club involved as director and volunteer for the St-Narcisse sector.
A little further we switched north towards St-Séverin and then St-Tite


One of the 3 places (2 on the ice and 1 on a bridge) where we cross the Rivière des Envies. We finally got enough cold for it to be safe

We then took the #23 and then the #360 towards St-Joseph de Mékinac

To have a meal at the village restaurant a little before noon

After a good lunch break we continued north 

To ride #355 trail Gazoduc section. It was not freshly groomed but was nice

At the next intersection we took a short break before heading south on #351 trail. A nice surprise appeared there

We therefore continued towards Zec Tawachiche on a freshly groomed trail.


We then headed east towards Lac Aux Sables. Here on the river which is very strong in Notre Dame de Montauban area

We then took the #353 towards St-Ubalde. It turned out to be the worst day choice because it was quite worn on some sections
We took a break at the  #351/#302 trails junction because my passenger really needed it! We then continued on the #302 which gave us back a big smile on our face

A visit to the St-Casimir cemetery!

For then cross the Ste-Anne River. It's a bit narrow but by looking down we still appreciate it!

We took a last break at #351 trail  junction. As we chattered we saw the horizon turn more and more colored

We then made our last stretch on #351 to return to our starting point. For those wondering if super Dominator LED lights work, that's what I have and Snowcruiser in front me is stock...

We returned to our starting point around 6:30 p.m. with 277 km on the dreammeter.
So an impressive snow cover everywhere that will help us get through the period of milder weather announced for the next few days, hoping that it will be colder than forecasted!
Bye!
Alain

We just rode from Quebec city, Roberval, Chapais, now in Val D Or. everything was very good except 50 miles above Lac Edward. More snow South than North. The run between LaDore and Chaboug was 150 miles between gas. Today we had 160 miles on before noon!

Had a great ride on Friday with a few lads. Ottawa received a lot of rain on Thursday and will need a bit of snow to get back on track.
Two hours north makes a huge difference. We left Ottawa at 6am drove up to Swisha, unloaded our sleds and rode to Kipawa. Round trip was 375km of beautiful trails. If you have not been up here, I highly recommend it.
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Sorry forgot to post the last day, Day 4 Thursday. Decided to do a shorter day so we could get loaded up for home Friday morning. We took 63 West to St Zenon then continued to LaGlacier. Trail groomed nice to LaGlacier but rough after there. Trail passes through a forestry operation and there is about a 1/2 mile on the plowed and sanded logging road. This is the smoothest section of 63 Lol. Go down past Bazinette still rough. Finally groomed again at St. Emilie and we continued to St. Damien. There we picked up 23 and took it to 350 to Koubek’s for lunch. After lunch headed up 345 and back to LeCabanon 130 miles for the day. 750 miles for the 4 day trip. Trails mostly good some great and some rough. This area as always has a lot of traffic and gets used by a lot of tour groups. We still like it for the simple reason there are a lot of different loops that can be made from one spot and a lot of great places to stop trailside. They usually get very good snow as well and many use it as a gateway to the Quebec North

Day 2 
Well , not so fast with the the thermostat and a reliable shower!
Power went out at the Delta for about 5 hours,  from the middle of the night until just after 7am 
Word from the restaurant.. not opening this morning  
Quick Google  .. found a awesome local restaurant just by the Esso station...  Le Delice highly recommended. 
Off to the new bridge !  From Otis Nature to the bridge was a pretty good beating but by the looks it was groomed later after we passed (we should have taken the lake/river)
Really impressive project that is , flew our Chinese drones around a bit to get a better view  .
Next stop Bill's favorite truck stop over by Milot for lunch n fuel . On to Eva for the night  .. figured if Icemans team liked it enough to stay 2 times in the same week.. will be plenty good enough for us ! So many times we've passed through there yard and not stopped. 
Super fun evening in the St-Patric pub with William as our host  
Lots of locals with great energy/vibe for a Thursday night.
All  while ours sleds are tucked in a cozy garage as it starts to snow heavily around 11 or so.  😀 
 
 

The new bridge on 373.
 

It's been like 5 years since we've looped the lake  
This past Tuesday 2/7 we landed in Saint Raymond with a" normal " trail ride in mind . 
Off Wednesday morning heading to the Delta like so many others 
As Dave said,  We're actually staying in a place with a thermostat and a reliable shower  😄
Super conditions,  2-8 of new over decent trails with blue skys most of the day 
 

Last sunday we did a ride at St-Côme ice sculptures festival. I would have prefered a sunny day for pics but we got a gray and snowy day with comfortable winter temperature.
We did the ride from home which  finally looks like that

We had just got few very deep cold days and the trail base was hard as a rock very nice

snow had continue to accumulate

There is a small trail section shared with ATVs and they don't groom their trail, they plow!

The Sculpture festival was just started and most ice art works were not completed, more work in progress but the festival continue for the 2 next weekend so those who will have the chance to go will see even an better exposition than us. Again the gray day gave deceiving pics but it give an idea of what it looks like


In the middle of the village there is a large life-size fresco in construction under the western theme


this boat is quite impressive

This festival is always a great snowmobile destination in Lanaudière, trail #343 crosses right in the middle of the village so you can't miss them. you still have until February 19 if you pass in this area.
We looped back home by getting on the #63 trail and went south.


The trail over Riviere Noire in St-Jean de Matha wasn't safe yet and we had to pass on the road bridge. I was scared a bit by looking at those slushy sled's tracks but I heard from non officials sources that they had staked the river this week.

 We finally got back home at the end of afternoon with another 232kms of good sledding in my neck of the wood!
After few days in arctic cold the temperature seems to stay warmer than usual but it is not the snow that is missing! still snowing actually, may have a bit of rain tonight but not an issue for sure. It's  the best time of the season to enjoy!
Alain

A little bit before coming out of the 345 onto the road for the first time. Headed fir Repos, I am railing right here comes a gang of up the middle’s headed up. First guy is obviously surprised to see anyone. He thinks about a hand signal then decides against it he is out of control off in the fluff on his side. If you need to steer like this guy was he was never in control to begin with. Scary. He is surely not alone but i hold my ground solid on right 2 more go buy these guys are more behaved as we saw each other coming. Now there has been no hand signals from them which I am good with as i am not a giver. The next guy however he has a signal. Now for all you hand signal aficionados please help me out here. I am minding my own damn business on my side sucked right hard. This guy is flapping his arm up and down it looked to me like some sort of one armed chicken dance. I am familiar with arm out pointed down meaning more sleds coming i guess. But flapping like a bird i thought….well i was not sure what to think. Then i see his friend the last one struggling to stay straight and using alot of trail must have been some kind of warning just not sure. 
 
Lets wrap this up people. 
Gas at Repo we asked for the Snowmaster discount and they charged us 25% markup. Bastards. LOL
No clubs for you here. Move on. 
 
Gave them 60$ and i did make it into pump with 28km on the yellow light low fuel. 
 
Gas and go then TQ33 minefield to after lakes as usual. Then ok not great but for late Sunday we will take it. We hammer it out. Just before junction of TQ33 and 360 catch a big group must be from Auberge Lac Taureau. No luggage. At junction they go left down 33. All good we are heading sraight into driveway for Camp Taureau. 
 
Love it here scored triple room giant with lots of space. $80 each with dinner and breakfast. 
Wifi now throughout the building last year was only up in bar/dining room. 
 
Totally new crew all new young faces here. 
 
Spectacular day on the trails.
 
Homeward bound tomorrow. 

 
 

Day 3: We left LeCabanon at 8:30 and took 23 East to 345 and continued to the Barrage. After crossing the Dam we took 360 to Mattawin. We arrived by 11 and gassed the sleds and took an Earl lunch at the Marinou. We decided not to continue the loop to Grand Mere because 360 hadn’t been groomed in quite some time so we headed back up 360 and this time at the Dam took 360 around the top of the lake. It was perfect and we met up with 33 where we continued towards SMDS then jumped on the lake to town. Gassed up and took 63 to LeCabanon. 63 was beat but was to be expected especially with the warmer temps and sun. Got back at 4 pm with 200 miles on

Day 2: we leave LeCabanon at 8:30 and take 63 West to SMDS. From there we jump on the lake and take it up to Auberge Taureau where we pick 33 up. All fresh groomed right to Repos. Gas up there and on to Kanawata for lunch. We decided to head back to Repos and top the gas then take 345 to 360 and the barrage back to LeCabanon.  8 miles before Repos I broke the front bolt for the shock in the skid. My 2016 Apex is the first year for the single shot. Anyone familiar with it knows what a pain in the butt this is. I had changed out the air shock long ago for an Elka, but she likes to eat bolts. Thought we had it resolved but no. After an hour or so of trailside mechanics, we get it together enough to get back but forget the 345, we are taking the 33 all the way and retracing our steps from earlier. It’s the shortest route and it was groomed. Got back at 6:00 PM with 220 miles on the clock. Will have to pull out the spare for the rest of the trip

****IMPORTANT****
TQ3 to open
Monday the 13th the Pessamit trail will be officially open!
 
We have been working very hard lately to get a temporary agreement to finish the season, the operators, volunteers are working hard right now to offer you the rest of the season. We will be grooming and putting up signage in this area in order to have the trails open by Monday February 13, 2023.
 
IMPORTANT to respect the speed limit of 50km/h on the Innu reserve please!
 
**** 50km/h **** 50km/h****
 
thank you and enjoy the rest of the season and BE CAREFUL and RESPECTFUL!

Decided to do a quick short loop in the Gaspe last weekend with my better half, and that it certainly was a short one.  Plans were to leave early Friday morning from Point a la Croix and go to Grande Nature.  Started early Friday morning by losing my wallet.  Searched high and low in the room, bags, back out to the bar, even up to the hot tub. No luck.  Had to call and cancel debit and credit cards. Frustrated now plus becoming to later start, went out to start the sleds and the 900 T was dead RRRRR!  Took the bags off got the booster pack out, still no go. Scratched my head, then tried the key fob off the 600.... everything starts. OMG mixed up the key fobs!  10:30 we start out and temperatures are dropping like a stone and the wind is strong.  Made it to the cable bridge all is good. Onwards to Groomers Clubhouse.  We land there and Kelly says she is very cold, wind has got considerably stronger and visibility had decreased.  All good, we change plans and off to the Select in Amqui. By the time we get there we were hitting serious white out conditions in the fields and the wind was biting cold.  Likely 30 sleds at the Select Friday night. Saturday morning it appear all 30 sleds stayed at to weather out the cold and wind.  Saturday consisted of eating, drinking, playing pool, hot tubs, and swimming pools for sledders. Plus found my missing wallet in my trunk bag! A great day. All highways in and out of Amqui except the Matepedia route were blocked and closed because of visibility. Sunday we headed back to the truck on some groomed trails and some ready for grooming that were drifted bad.  Big trip, about 180 miles! LOL A nice relaxing weekend that will be a great memory and laughs for a long time.  A few pics of our adventure.