ChrisWright Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 Nice chart. Yes, it is unfair to draw conclusions on data unless you understand the data and its source. Unfortunately, there has been absolutely zero consistency across the world and even within the US (State to State) with the way the data has been accumulated and reported, effectively rendering it useless. Obviously, the more you test, the more results and naturally, it's a virus, so you will have positives. Here in PA, we are on a kick to report presumed positives in the numbers without even being tested. For example: if you live with a family of 5 and one person has a positive test, all five immediately became positive statistics, no testing required. If the family chooses to get tested, and they receive a negative result it is deemed to be inaccurate. For some, this may be hard to believe because it makes no sense, but I have personally been involved with this situation on more than one occasion. Furthermore, there is a complete and total disregard for the concept behind false positives results, which if you dive into articles written by expert scientists and doctors you will find that this is not uncommon when testing is done on asymptomatic people. Currently, there is a significant amount of testing be performed on this group, another measure which is not recommended by medical professionals, yet being mandated by government officials. Government and Media have only selected the variables of this that incite fear to focus on and are not providing a clear picture. We must think through all the information that is being presented and seek out the truth. Early May compared to today, I believe PA had around 60k cases in early May, most of which were active. Today we are concerned that there are more positive cases popping up than ever before, rightfully so, the testing has increased exponentially since this time period; however, active cases are much lower today than they were in early May. Many of the major medical systems are reporting that the severity of COVID inpatients has significantly declined today compared to April/May inpatients and have concluded that the virus strain appears to be weakening, a trend that's typical with Animal borne disease. These stories and research are getting zero attention, but it's excellent reading when you seek it out. Extensive research has also shown time and again that transmission is not has easy as officials report, again, not something they want to focus on. For some reason, and I am sure we all have our theories, they are spoon feeding us only the data that incites fear. It is up to us to make sure we are understanding what is being presented and seeking out additional facts so we may fully understand the real story. Many don't get beyond reading their news feeds or FB posts, which is why the lambs are being so easily led. NSHM, PLAYHARD, iceman and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
800steve Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 3 hours ago, EastMark said: According to NBC tonite...who want it to be as horrible as possible...some surprising facts. The whole truth for a change. April 1 to July 1...600% increase in US testing. We expect tons more positive cases for sure....but its a fraction of the 600%. Published by NBC yesterday. Stay safe and smart...it is scary...just Flatten The Fear they too often incite. Love that second curve, but death rates usually lag 3-4 weeks after positive cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLAYHARD Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 hour ago, ChrisWright said: It is up to us to make sure we are understanding what is being presented and seeking out additional facts so we may fully understand the real story. Many don't get beyond reading their news feeds or FB posts, which is why the lambs are being so easily led. Thanks. “Spare time” reading, article links from the Flatten-the-Fear site: https://aapsonline.org/covid-hype-and-hope/ https://arizonadailyindependent.com/2020/07/01/arizona-doctor-freedom-must-be-restored-without-exceptions/ https://www.texaspolicy.com/covid-19-in-context-dr-lindley-says-respect-dont-fear-covid-19/ https://www.presstelegram.com/2020/06/26/a-spike-in-known-covid-19-cases-doesnt-warrant-another-shutdown/ https://flattenthefear.com/app/uploads/2020/06/FlattenTheFear_CovidFacts_6-26.pdf https://www.wsj.com/articles/coping-with-covid-19-11593041285?mod=opinion_lead_pos1 https://californiaglobe.com/section-2/covid-facts-not-fear-should-drive-california-reopening/ https://nsjonline.com/article/2020/06/droz-name-of-the-game-isolate-the-few-to-protect-the-many/ https://flattenthefear.com/news-article/new-survey-pandemic-lockdown-has-impacted-more-than-the-economy/ https://4-h.org/about/research/#!healthy-living ChrisWright 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSX800 Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 Testing goes up, number of positive cases goes up. Makes sense. After the appropriate time lag, will those positive cases then translate to an increase in hospitalizations, and deaths? That is yet to play out. I'm just going to do my part, hope everyone else does too, and hope for the best. PLAYHARD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman Posted July 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 2 hours ago, ChrisWright said: Many don't get beyond reading their news feeds or FB posts, which is why the lambs are being so easily led. Exactly You can be tested positive and have zero symptoms as well and not be sick. So the numbers are just that....numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman Posted July 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, GSX800 said: hope for the best. Always but remember hope is not plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastMark Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Flatten the fear is a website now ? Haha Be safe. Be smart. Be careful. But don’t run scared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman Posted July 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Baaaaaa MrGutz, NSHM, jak and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnc Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, iceman said: Baaaaaa Who knew?😁😁😁😁😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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iceman Posted July 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 Masks mandatory in all business and public places in all of Quebec as of July 18. They do not have a clue, where is the science to back this up? Kinda like wearing a condom at the Baby Shower at this point if you ask me. This will help kill things good. Mainly the businesses that were just trying to get back on their feet. RIP Quebec Economy. dooright 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGutz Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 All I can think of is they are seeing a spike in hospitalizations.. and to try and stem any further transfers they are imposing the masks? But it does seem like closing the barn door after the horses have already run free. Oh Well. GutZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman Posted July 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 They been wearing masks long before anyone heard of Covid in China, how did that work out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman Posted July 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 19 minutes ago, MrGutz said: But it does seem like closing the barn door after the horses have already run free Trying to herd the sheep, it’s working. with most. Others not so much. Many do not like being told what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman Posted July 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 So starting Saturday for example, at restaurants, you have to wear your mask just until seated at table, after no mask required, if you get up to move say to go to bathroom must put mask back on. Seems perfectly logical. At these places called Gyms, (I have seen these but not familiar) you must enter wearing mask, while working out on a machine no mask required. When you move from one machine to another or go bathroom must put mask back on. Sounds good. Solid plan there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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iceman Posted July 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 By the way.... Florida Snowman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman Posted July 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 A VERY WELL WRITTEN TEXT! And it's just the beginning of the ATTACK on HUMANITY... ′′ It's just a mask ′′ will turn into ′′ It's just a vaccine ", shortly. In less than 5 months, governments have successfully divided the world into ′′ obedient masks ′′ and ′′ selfish persons who refuse to wear masks ". In less than 5 months, governments have dictated which events are allowed and which we are allowed to attend and are not allowed. Violent protests are accepted and encouraged, while family gatherings and holidays are not. Standing in line and scrimmage at the supermarket is not a danger. In less than 5 months, governments have managed to close numerous small and medium-sized enterprises while enriching big corporations. In less than 5 months, they have convinced people to believe that a cash-free society is a good thing - for fear of a flu with profi marketing. In less than 5 months, governments closed schools and restructured education - under the pretext of ′′ public safety ". In less than 5 months, governments have demonstrated how easily fearful people can accept the restriction of freedoms, making fear a ruling principle. However, citizens are not afraid of the people in power, who are responsible for the disappearance of freedoms and livelihood, but fear their neighbors, family, human contact and the air they breathe. Governments, with the help of the media, created an unprecedented hysteria in history. All in the name of a flu. In less than 5 months, governments around the globe have reduced free peoples to slaves of the system that oppress them. People wearing masks ′′ for the sake of everyone ", will be the first to sign up for the new vaccine, with zero safety tests. It is serious that this vaccine will be used by governments as an exclusion factor from various services, events. You should see when you will be told that you cannot enter a store without the proof of the Covid-19 vaccine or go to the doctor without proof that you are not a ′′ risk ′′ to others. The governments successfully trained us at what hours to go outside, where we are allowed to go and how our children will be educated - in less than 5 months! The majority of the population blindly follows illegal directions and impositions, just because they are told they must, that they are obliged to do so as responsible citizens. This majority does not question if what is required of them makes any sense. They will do the same with the vaccine for the ′′ virus that destroyed the planet ". They will quickly cornered themselves to be vaccinated and consider enemies those who don't, because the government tells them that the unvaccinated are a danger to them . Despite being vaccinated. Zero logic if the vaccine immunizes you. Obviously, it wasn't ′′ just about a mask ′′ for a second, but about control. Total control over individuals across the planet. For what purpose? We will discover together soon enough. PLAYHARD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLAYHARD Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 15 hours ago, iceman said: less than 5 months...less than 5 months...less than 5 months...less than 5 months...less than 5 months...less than 5 months Get it! Got it! Good! I'magosleddin in less than 5 months! Florida Snowman, Cobra and MrGutz 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGutz Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 20 minutes ago, PLAYHARD said: I wonder if BC\BS will cover the Trail Pass?! GutZ mikerider and PLAYHARD 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PLAYHARD Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 Bill Gates seems proudly & closely affiliated with the W.H.O. Hmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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