EastMark Posted December 25, 2022 Report Share Posted December 25, 2022 (edited) Just pulled out the passports. Wifes expired 2 weeks ago. Can we update it and pay the fee at the border itself tomorrow when we cross ? Least painful option ? Edited December 25, 2022 by EastMark PLAYHARD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmaster2112 Posted December 25, 2022 Report Share Posted December 25, 2022 33 minutes ago, EastMark said: Just pulled out the passports. Wifes expired 2 weeks ago. Can we update it and pay the fee at the border itself tomorrow when we cross ? Least painful option ? Things may have changed .....but a few years back wife and I were going to Toronto for a summer concert. when the agent handed our stuff back he politely said “ ma’am ..just so you know your passport expired 6 mos. ago” i remember looking stuff up when I got home and found something to the effect that a passport is still proof of citizenship. Even an expired one. I highly doubt you’ll be turned away and doubt even more you can renew it at the border as they have nothing to do with it. PLAYHARD and actionjack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastMark Posted December 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2022 Thank you snowmaster and safe travels tomorrow ! PLAYHARD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman Posted December 25, 2022 Report Share Posted December 25, 2022 57 minutes ago, EastMark said: Just pulled out the passports. Wifes expired 2 weeks ago. Can we update it and pay the fee at the border itself tomorrow when we cross ? Least painful option ? Play dumb if they notice it’s expired act surprised. GSX800, Pipeman, quebec bob and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastMark Posted December 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, iceman said: Play dumb if they notice it’s expired act surprised. Right up my alley Ice….. 😂 iceman and PLAYHARD 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLAYHARD Posted December 26, 2022 Report Share Posted December 26, 2022 Are there other states like NY that offer "enhanced" driver's licenses, that are accepted at the border instead of passports? iceman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLAYHARD Posted December 26, 2022 Report Share Posted December 26, 2022 Are there other states like NY that offer "enhanced" driver's licenses, that are accepted at the border instead of passports? Whichever solution's best, maybe they'd be more lenient if you flashed a printout of an online application? mccaffrey and iceman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman Posted December 26, 2022 Report Share Posted December 26, 2022 21 minutes ago, PLAYHARD said: Are there other states like NY that offer "enhanced" driver's licenses, that are accepted at the border instead of passports? Whichever solution's best, maybe they'd be more lenient if you flashed a printout of an online application? Currently, in the United States, the states of Minnesota, Michigan, New York, Washington, and Vermont, offer EDLs. Arizona, California, and Texas are working on implementing an EDL program. In Canada, the provinces of British Columbia, Quebec, Manitoba, and Ontario offer EDLs. PLAYHARD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shore1066 Posted December 26, 2022 Report Share Posted December 26, 2022 I do remember one time going through customs the agent gave us the quote that David could go snowmobiling but I had to go home. Reason was I had never signed my passport. I jumped out of the truck and ran around to his window and said give me a pen. Amazingly he laughed and said you must really like snowmobiling because you really had a scared look on your face. I signed it and away we went. I thing I made his day. PLAYHARD and GSX800 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dooright Posted December 26, 2022 Report Share Posted December 26, 2022 14 hours ago, PLAYHARD said: Are there other states like NY that offer "enhanced" driver's licenses, that are accepted at the border instead of passports? Vermont for sure.. i have one PLAYHARD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikerider Posted December 26, 2022 Report Share Posted December 26, 2022 I don't believe an enhanced license can be used in lieu of a passport of passcard. My advice; When you are about to enter Customs, put on your baclava and go like hell. PLAYHARD, MrsGTRider, PISTON LAKE CRUISER and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBLER Posted December 26, 2022 Report Share Posted December 26, 2022 1 hour ago, mikerider said: I don't believe an enhanced license can be used in lieu of a passport of passcard. My advice; When you are about to enter Customs, put on your baclava and go like hell. When i tried to use it they flat said not accepted, probably 10 yrs ago now PLAYHARD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikerider Posted December 26, 2022 Report Share Posted December 26, 2022 Correct, I believe the enhanced driver's license will eventually be needed to board a plane and to enter federal buildings. The only foreign country I enter is Canada and I go via land crossings. When my passport expired, I was able to save money and just get a passcard, which is only permissible for land crossings and only Canada. PLAYHARD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT Rider Posted December 26, 2022 Report Share Posted December 26, 2022 I got one of these several years ago. I haven't tried to use it yet. It states you can use it to reenter. https://dmv.ny.gov/driver-license/get-enhanced-driver-license-edl What is an Enhanced Driver License (EDL)? An Enhanced license (permit, or non-driver ID) is a New York State DMV issued document that you can use instead of a passport to return to the US by land or sea from Canada, Mexico and some countries in the Caribbean. New York's EDL is compliant with the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI). 1 It is not acceptable for air travel between these countries. We recommend you contact your travel agent, your cruise line or the specific countries of destination to verify your travel document requirements. An Enhanced license, permit or non-driver ID is Federal REAL ID compliant and is accepted to board a domestic flight (within the US), enter military bases, and certain federal facilities. Only US citizens who are residents of New York can apply for a New York State EDL. PLAYHARD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluenose Posted December 26, 2022 Report Share Posted December 26, 2022 For a US citizen a passport is not required to enter Canada. Proper photo Id is sufficient. The problem is a passport is required to return to the US PLAYHARD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shore1066 Posted December 26, 2022 Report Share Posted December 26, 2022 I have both and have used both at different times. The passport going by car and going by boat I only used the enhanced driver's license. One of the boys that go with us got a pass card and had no problems going by car. Now the enhanced license and pass card we did use before covid. Only our experience. They are NY State issued and crossing only at customs on Hill Island at the end of rt. 81. PLAYHARD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je me souviens Posted December 26, 2022 Report Share Posted December 26, 2022 You can definitely use a NY EDL to enter Canada via land or water, not via air. We doo it all the time. PLAYHARD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikerider Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 But is the EDL accepted coming back into the states or is the passport necessary. PLAYHARD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Bluenose said: For a US citizen a passport is not required to enter Canada. Proper photo Id is sufficient. The problem is a passport is required to return to the US Or enhanced drivers license will get you back into usa PLAYHARD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastMark Posted December 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) We are in. Agent reminded us hers was expired. On land ok he said, in airport it must be current. LOTS of snow here at Glaciere' in St Zenon. Riders saying trails were "very nice" today. They rode 160+ miles. 👍 Edited December 27, 2022 by EastMark PLAYHARD, P Hardy, Florida Snowman and 5 others 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je me souviens Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 Ok great. So what you are saying is we will have some more sled porn to feast our eyes on by this time tomorrow. Florida Snowman, PLAYHARD and zeusand 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EastMark Posted December 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 Basic cheap hotel. Nice people. Great location. Thrilled to be here given last minutes booking ! Will eat out somewhere else tomorrow nite. PLAYHARD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastMark Posted December 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 Chris Did you get out this afternoon ? PLAYHARD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je me souviens Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 Ask and you shall receive, instantly. Thank you sir we are off to a good start. PLAYHARD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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